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Title: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: :+:Sea!:+: on June 25, 2008, 09:46 PM
Starcraft isn't the same with you guys :( and any updates on whether or not you guys wil lbe updating BNLS for battle.net V2 if possible ?
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: iago on June 25, 2008, 10:06 PM
Quote from: :+:Sea!:+: on June 25, 2008, 09:46 PM
Starcraft isn't the same with you guys :( and any updates on whether or not you guys wil lbe updating BNLS for battle.net V2 if possible ?
Indeed it isn't the same *with* them.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: :+:Sea!:+: on June 25, 2008, 10:12 PM
without sorry... :( I am tired
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Hostile on July 07, 2008, 09:41 AM
Were all coming back soon, hang in there little seal *(wonders who that is)*
/me is superly drunk and on teh internet in the far east
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Hostile on July 07, 2008, 09:42 AM
/me just realized his avatar was a panda and stereotypically represents the asian culture via the movie kung fu panda lmfao
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Yoni on August 02, 2008, 07:25 AM
I'm actually here, just less frequently. Though I don't get on Battle.net anymore. Same with Spht and Skywing (haven't heard from Grok for a while though).

Nah @ BNLS. We have more interesting projects now :)

Haha @ Hostile
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Alendar on August 02, 2008, 11:59 AM
Spht is seen once in awhile in a channel and his ClanGnome still roams Battle.net.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: UserLoser on August 03, 2008, 12:29 AM
Quote from: Yoni on August 02, 2008, 07:25 AM
Nah @ BNLS. We have more interesting projects now :)

like what?
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: MyndFyre on August 03, 2008, 03:00 AM
I personally am working on an app for a GPS-integrated smartphone application that will be sold to popular tavel destinations.  We're doing the functional discovery in the next week or so :)
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Spht on August 03, 2008, 03:24 PM
I develop drill tubing inspection software/hardware for use on oilfields.  i'm also in the process of starting up a local self-storage business
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Invert on August 04, 2008, 03:44 AM
I'm a Marketing Director for a high-tech communications company working on our new products trademark development and global branding.

If BNLS was the project of interest, the programmers in vL would develop it further and I would be the one to entice you to pay a monthly fee for using it.  ;)
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Dale on August 04, 2008, 09:36 AM
Since this is turning into the "what am I doing now" thread:

I'm living in my mothers basement.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Warrior on August 04, 2008, 10:08 AM
I'm running the flag back in Warsong Gulch.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Explicit on August 04, 2008, 10:39 AM
Quote from: Invert on August 04, 2008, 03:44 AM
If BNLS was the project of interest, the programmers in vL would develop it further and I would be the one to entice you to pay a monthly fee for using it.  ;)

You may be onto something there.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Barabajagal on August 04, 2008, 02:18 PM
No one's gonna pay for BNLS when local hashing and JBLS both work. Maybe try when SC2/D3 are out.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Dale on August 04, 2008, 04:12 PM
Quote from: Andy on August 04, 2008, 02:18 PM
No one's gonna pay for BNLS when local hashing and JBLS both work. Maybe try when SC2/D3 are out.

I figured they were talking about SC2/D3 silly :)
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Invert on August 05, 2008, 04:07 AM
They = me, and it was a joke.

Warrior, did you make it or did you drop the flag?
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Warrior on August 05, 2008, 05:27 AM
Dropped :(.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: electrostatistic on August 07, 2008, 09:38 AM
It is interesting to see where we've all ended up, but attempting to observe myself writing this, I think I say this every time I make a random annual visit... and as years have passed since I felt Battle.net "died," it's nice to know how things are going with some of the people I used to talk to.  After all, we are all humans!
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Joe[x86] on August 07, 2008, 08:57 PM
I'm playing World of WarCraft, or as you called it, "Battle.net v2". :)
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Denial on August 10, 2008, 07:33 PM
As some point in time people are reminded by what once was. Then it crosses their minds for a second for a minute for a few hours depending on the amount of impact it has caused. I still idle my bots on battle.net for no purpose except to idle. So sometimes when i come home every few weeks or so i check on bnet and then i might talk to someone or leave someone a random botmail but its still a bit weird when someone messages me on an instant messenger asking me if battle.net is still alive.

People grow up and move onto other things that are of interest to them. I can say for myself battle.net was a fun place to play with. As well as the games were fun to corrupt. I can say without question battle.net isn't the same anymore even if a lot of people come back it still won't seem the same.

Although i do look forward to people coming back when diablo 3 and starcraft 2 are released. Most people though have lost their old names which sucks but names don't matter its the person behind them.

Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Yegg on August 10, 2008, 10:39 PM
Even though people may come back to for those two games, I doubt it will be for long and it will probably be just for the sake of playing the game for a short period of time just for the sake of playing it. Battle.net's just been something that's been "used up", for lack of a better phrase. It's still alive somewhat, there's still people on here writing code for it. I keep up with their progress now and then -- it's fun to see where things are going.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: disco on August 10, 2008, 10:47 PM
This thread is so nostalgic, it makes me want to download some bots again.  Well, not really, bnet has sucked for a pretty long time...

Can't wait for d3 and sc2, though.  Maybe bnet will have something of a renaissance then.  For now I wish I could play some WoW but I'm stuck on dial-up in Australia until the 22nd.  Oh well...
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Invert on August 11, 2008, 03:06 AM
Blizzard mentioned that they are going to re-work battle.net for the new games. This might be a good thing or not.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Hostile on August 11, 2008, 11:20 PM
How can it not be a good thing? Battle.net is nice in the sense of memories as many people have more or less brought up but as for its actual architecture and design well... it definitly competed with AOL 3.0 back in the day.. lols

The most obvious solutions seem to make all legacy battle.net games (those that have came out up until now) to be decentralized like they did with Diablo and public rooms, or to tag all names like they did with Warcraft3, which would certainly prove a lame solution if they hope to utilize battle.net for both D3 and SC2. I dont they'll repeat the cheap fixes of the past, but given you can't change the old CD key system, they limit how nice they can be to the old games once those come out.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: l2k-Shadow on August 11, 2008, 11:22 PM
I heard from an inside source that it's still being debated whether or not sc2/d3 are going to be on the same network as the others. i hope that's just them trying to confuse people though ;p
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Spht on August 12, 2008, 12:21 AM
Battle.net is due for an upgrade.  i imagine they'll try and focus new battle.net towards e-sports/tournaments and all ladder/stats integrated with the websites, kind of like world of warcraft

Looking forward to sc2 myself, not so much d3.  heard it'll have nice matchmaking system, and hopefully will be more reliable way to keep in contact with several friends rather than clans or the limited friends list
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: MyndFyre on August 12, 2008, 10:24 AM
Quote from: Spht on August 12, 2008, 12:21 AM
Battle.net is due for an upgrade.  i imagine they'll try and focus new battle.net towards e-sports/tournaments and all ladder/stats integrated with the websites, kind of like world of warcraft
They can do all of that through the existing infrastructure though, without too much additional work.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Barabajagal on August 12, 2008, 03:58 PM
I doubt when they say they're going to be making an "improved" Battle.net, they're talking about the protocol. Nearly all users will only ever see end interface/features, which is what they'll be focusing on. Voice chat, new commands and buttons, maybe some features bots have implemented already?
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: UserLoser on August 12, 2008, 08:11 PM
b.net will be same exact thing, just new features for sc2/d3... they said they had a new improved battle.net when war3 came out ..... same thing. i'm pretty sure they mean the gui and how it all looks and interacts with users (everyday people who dont care/know nothing about the actual protocol/system will consider it a 'new improved battle.net').  voice chat is guaranteed to just be in game...do you know how abusive that would be and how corrupt it would mess up if ppl can broadcast whatever they want over battle.net channels via voice?  i dont think that's gonna happen cuz they dont want to get sued with a 13 year old playing his brand new sc2 hears some 15 year old call him a "fucking crackhead noobie" and the mother hears it outta the speakers .... voice chat in game only it would seem like, peer to peer where b.net isn't liable at all for that kinda stuff.

no they're not talking about the protocol, that'd be stupid and so much work to rewrite it all to have a newer improved thing for 2 games when they already have like 10 others to worry about, just a thought
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Barabajagal on August 12, 2008, 08:31 PM
That's pretty much exactly what I just said...
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Warrior on August 12, 2008, 09:06 PM
Quote from: UserLoser on August 12, 2008, 08:11 PM
b.net will be same exact thing, just new features for sc2/d3... they said they had a new improved battle.net when war3 came out ..... same thing. i'm pretty sure they mean the gui and how it all looks and interacts with users (everyday people who dont care/know nothing about the actual protocol/system will consider it a 'new improved battle.net').  voice chat is guaranteed to just be in game...do you know how abusive that would be and how corrupt it would mess up if ppl can broadcast whatever they want over battle.net channels via voice?  i dont think that's gonna happen cuz they dont want to get sued with a 13 year old playing his brand new sc2 hears some 15 year old call him a "fucking crackhead noobie" and the mother hears it outta the speakers .... voice chat in game only it would seem like, peer to peer where b.net isn't liable at all for that kinda stuff.

no they're not talking about the protocol, that'd be stupid and so much work to rewrite it all to have a newer improved thing for 2 games when they already have like 10 others to worry about, just a thought

Voice Chat would probably be as limited as it is on WoW. Moderators would be able to mute people, and only like three people could speak at once or something.

It'd probably also be in game only.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: UserLoser on August 12, 2008, 10:53 PM
Quote from: Andy on August 12, 2008, 08:31 PM
That's pretty much exactly what I just said...

yeah, i know.  whats your point?
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Invert on August 13, 2008, 02:12 AM
None of you have said anything interesting after my post. Your guesses are boring.

Now, how about something like providing a special mouse with SC2 that shocks your hand when you lose a command center? This would be a great b.net update.  ;)
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Warrior on August 13, 2008, 03:27 AM
I honestly doubt much will change, sure some matchmaking to keep the masses quiet but overall it will be largely the same protocol wise.

Still, it may spark life back into Battle.net which is always a good thing. If I'm not completely sucked into WoTLK then I'll give SC2 a go.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: disco on August 13, 2008, 03:49 AM
Quote from: Hostile on August 11, 2008, 11:20 PM
How can it not be a good thing? Battle.net is nice in the sense of memories as many people have more or less brought up but as for its actual architecture and design well... it definitly competed with AOL 3.0 back in the day.. lols

The most obvious solutions seem to make all legacy battle.net games (those that have came out up until now) to be decentralized like they did with Diablo and public rooms, or to tag all names like they did with Warcraft3, which would certainly prove a lame solution if they hope to utilize battle.net for both D3 and SC2. I dont they'll repeat the cheap fixes of the past, but given you can't change the old CD key system, they limit how nice they can be to the old games once those come out.

I'm still mad they got rid of Ladder.  And I had even quit SC at that point.

Quote from: InvertNow, how about something like providing a special mouse with SC2 that shocks your hand when you lose a command center? This would be a great b.net update.  Wink

Or how about repositioning your tower so the fan blasted you with warm in when a nuke went off?
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Spht on August 13, 2008, 10:46 AM
Quote from: Invert on August 13, 2008, 02:12 AM
None of you have said anything interesting after my post. Your guesses are boring.

Now, how about something like providing a special mouse with SC2 that shocks your hand when you lose a command center? This would be a great b.net update.  ;)

What, like a rumble pack?  yeah...that's a great idea...
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Hostile on August 13, 2008, 10:32 PM
lols but how do i plug it in my mouse?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7a/N64RumblePak.jpg/250px-N64RumblePak.jpg)

omfg wait!!!! unless were gonna play starcraft 2 with nintendo 64 controllers!!!! holy shit............. thats a friggin awesome idea that wont suck at all!!!!!!!!


oh wait..
(http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2003/all/boxshots2/198791_28030.jpg)

fuck haha
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Invert on August 14, 2008, 02:16 AM
Quote from: Spht on August 13, 2008, 10:46 AM
What, like a rumble pack?  yeah...that's a great idea...

No! Like real electricity going through your hand followed by real pain.

rumble pack...pffft.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Barabajagal on August 14, 2008, 02:40 AM
Shock treatment! 9/10 early 20th century doctors agree it does something!
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Invert on August 15, 2008, 02:11 AM
Quote from: Andy on August 14, 2008, 02:40 AM
Shock treatment! 9/10 early 20th century doctors agree it does something!

I'm not a doctor and I can prove to you that it does "something." All you need is 2 paper clips and an electric wall socket.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: disco on August 15, 2008, 09:35 PM
Nothing makes a good starcraft player better than aversion therapy.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on August 20, 2008, 01:34 PM
i feel like we should all get together and watch the breakfast club or something. jesus christ this thread is drippy.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Sixen on August 20, 2008, 05:18 PM
So BNLS is not going to be updated, hmmm.. Ohwell, there's always JBLS and Hashing, =P. Of course i'll be here for SC2 an D3, heh.

Anyway, hai everyone. SC2 and D3 are most likely going to have their own namespaces, yes.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Mystical on August 20, 2008, 06:40 PM
well, I wonder how long it'll be.. before we can get sc2 or d3 on a bot, probley never happen...

Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: MyndFyre on August 20, 2008, 08:49 PM
Quote from: MyStiCaL on August 20, 2008, 06:40 PM
well, I wonder how long it'll be.. before we can get sc2 or d3 on a bot, probley never happen...

Maybe we should get the actual game before we start talking doom-and-gloom...
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Hostile on August 20, 2008, 09:49 PM
Quote from: MyndFyre[vL] on August 20, 2008, 08:49 PM

Maybe we should get the actual game before we start talking doom-and-gloom...
/me shakes his head..

You don't know the internet at all, do you? :P
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Barabajagal on August 20, 2008, 10:04 PM
Worst case scenarios ftw!

Honestly, I doubt they're gonna bother making an entirely new connection system for two new games. War3's system seems sufficient, doesn't it?
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Sixen on August 20, 2008, 10:24 PM
Quote from: MyStiCaL on August 20, 2008, 06:40 PM
well, I wonder how long it'll be.. before we can get sc2 or d3 on a bot, probley never happen...

Of course it'll happen. They'll both be used on Battle.net, making it possible. Blizzard has already said Chat Bots are legal, yet unsupported, so there's nothing stopping you.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Invert on August 21, 2008, 02:15 AM
Quote from: Sixen on August 20, 2008, 10:24 PM
Of course it'll happen. They'll both be used on Battle.net, making it possible. Blizzard has already said Chat Bots are legal, yet unsupported, so there's nothing stopping you.

Let's not hurt ourselves thinking, we will take this one step at a time.

1. Blizzard said that they will make changes to battle.net. We don't know what those changes will be or how will the new games work as part of the battle.net system.

2. Blizzards legal "Chat Bots" are not the same thing as a game emulating program which allows you to chat on battle.net.

3. A horse is a horse, of course, of course, And no one can talk to a horse of course That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mister Ed.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Mystical on August 21, 2008, 03:27 AM
 
Well, im just saying we don't have all the good developers like we use to.

skywing, maddox, yoni, theministerd, arta... might not have the time like they did when war3 came out.

believe it or not i bet half this forum will probley be waiting for iago or rob to come up with somthing. :[
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: iago on August 21, 2008, 08:44 AM
Quote from: MyStiCaL on August 20, 2008, 06:40 PM
well, I wonder how long it'll be.. before we can get sc2 or d3 on a bot, probley never happen...



As soon as:
a) Somebody buys me a new computer, and
b) I get bored.

:)
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: brew on August 21, 2008, 10:53 AM
Quote from: MyStiCaL on August 21, 2008, 03:27 AM
believe it or not i bet half this forum will probley be waiting for iago or rob to come up with somthing. :[

You're not that half, right? :-P
It's not like people haven't already filled their places.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: UserLoser on August 21, 2008, 12:55 PM
Quote from: MyStiCaL on August 21, 2008, 03:27 AM

Well, im just saying we don't have all the good developers like we use to.

skywing, maddox, yoni, theministerd, arta... might not have the time like they did when war3 came out.

believe it or not i bet half this forum will probley be waiting for iago or rob to come up with somthing. :[

i plan on writing a bot for fun when these games come out...
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: PunK on August 21, 2008, 02:01 PM
Why doesn't vL let someone else manage BNLS for them? Someone willing to update it on a frequent bases.

From dii.net
Quote
When D3 comes out, Blizzard will be making major changes to battle.net. All players will have a universal battle.net account for all games. They will start selling a $6 key chain with a digital face that updates every 10 minutes or so with a new 11-digit number. That 11-digit number will be your password. This will make it nearly impossible to keylog or bruteforce accounts.
I don't see the point of it really since brute forcing is completely useless.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Mystical on August 21, 2008, 02:05 PM
Quote from: PunK on August 21, 2008, 02:01 PM
Why doesn't vL let someone else manage BNLS for them? Someone willing to update it on a frequent bases.

That would be a great idea... or someone fix BNCSutil.dll actually both would be nice. :P
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: PunK on August 21, 2008, 02:11 PM
Quote from: MyStiCaL on August 21, 2008, 02:05 PM
Quote from: PunK on August 21, 2008, 02:01 PM
Why doesn't vL let someone else manage BNLS for them? Someone willing to update it on a frequent bases.

That would be a great idea... or someone fix BNCSutil.dll actually both would be nice. :P


I was thinking of making a small daemon that handles connections like BNLS. I wouldn't want to spend much time on it so I'd probably have the daemon use BNCSUtil and Andy's Warden library to handle peoples warden requests. Only issue would be that people would have to keep the connection to the BNLS server to send/receive the handled warden responses.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Mystical on August 21, 2008, 02:19 PM
Quote from: PunK on August 21, 2008, 02:11 PM
Quote from: MyStiCaL on August 21, 2008, 02:05 PM
Quote from: PunK on August 21, 2008, 02:01 PM
Why doesn't vL let someone else manage BNLS for them? Someone willing to update it on a frequent bases.

That would be a great idea... or someone fix BNCSutil.dll actually both would be nice. :P


I was thinking of making a small daemon that handles connections like BNLS. I wouldn't want to spend much time on it so I'd probably have the daemon use BNCSUtil and Andy's Warden library to handle peoples warden requests. Only issue would be that people would have to keep the connection to the BNLS server to send/receive the handled warden responses.

Well then you'd have 2 connections, from 2 differnt servers.. not sucha good idea. hmm. warden isn't a big deal, build that into ur bot. or create a library to handle it
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: PunK on August 21, 2008, 02:27 PM
Yeah, that's the only down side. I guess a new updated BNLS server would be useful though.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Sixen on August 21, 2008, 05:53 PM
Quote from: Invert on August 21, 2008, 02:15 AM
Let's not hurt ourselves thinking, we will take this one step at a time.

1. Blizzard said that they will make changes to battle.net. We don't know what those changes will be or how will the new games work as part of the battle.net system.

2. Blizzards legal "Chat Bots" are not the same thing as a game emulating program which allows you to chat on battle.net.

3. A horse is a horse, of course, of course, And no one can talk to a horse of course That is, of course, unless the horse is the famous Mister Ed.

True, however they know people have emulated the game to login. In fact, Mike Morhaime suggested people helping in then Open Tech Channel to move from CHAT to D1 or another CDKey-less client. Anyway, they have stated that as long as you don't violate the ToU by spamming, harassing others, etc, etc, you will be fine.

Quote from: PunK on August 21, 2008, 02:01 PM
Why doesn't vL let someone else manage BNLS for them? Someone willing to update it on a frequent bases.

From dii.net
Quote
When D3 comes out, Blizzard will be making major changes to battle.net. All players will have a universal battle.net account for all games. They will start selling a $6 key chain with a digital face that updates every 10 minutes or so with a new 11-digit number. That 11-digit number will be your password. This will make it nearly impossible to keylog or bruteforce accounts.
I don't see the point of it really since brute forcing is completely useless.

Yeah, that's completely speculation right now. However, they've already started to do something like this. The new expansion, WotLK, requires a Blizzard Account. That being said, the WoW forums will require a Blizzard account. The current account also allows you to register the different Battle.net games, so Battle.net 2.0 and the new Battle.net Forums will probably require a Blizzard Account as well. All of that being said, I believe it should just be on large forum since they both require a Blizzard Account. The account will probably be linked to everything Blizzard, hence the name Blizzard Account instead of Bnet account, etc, etc.

They've already started selling authenticators that act somewhat like that. They currently just have a security token that you can link to your WoW account. While all of this has happened, it's still all speculation...

Quote from: PunK on August 21, 2008, 02:27 PM
Yeah, that's the only down side. I guess a new updated BNLS server would be useful though.

Agreed.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: PunK on August 21, 2008, 11:44 PM
Well I guess I'll get started on a new log in service.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: MyndFyre on August 22, 2008, 03:06 AM
Quote from: Sixen on August 21, 2008, 05:53 PM
Yeah, that's completely speculation right now. However, they've already started to do something like this. The new expansion, WotLK, requires a Blizzard Account. That being said, the WoW forums will require a Blizzard account. The current account also allows you to register the different Battle.net games, so Battle.net 2.0 and the new Battle.net Forums will probably require a Blizzard Account as well. All of that being said, I believe it should just be on large forum since they both require a Blizzard Account. The account will probably be linked to everything Blizzard, hence the name Blizzard Account instead of Bnet account, etc, etc.
WotLK requires a "temporary Blizzard account" and isn't necessarily integrated into the rest of their products.  My WotLK account is separate, for instance, from my Blizzard Store account.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Sixen on August 22, 2008, 09:47 AM
Quote from: MyndFyre[vL] on August 22, 2008, 03:06 AM
Quote from: Sixen on August 21, 2008, 05:53 PM
Yeah, that's completely speculation right now. However, they've already started to do something like this. The new expansion, WotLK, requires a Blizzard Account. That being said, the WoW forums will require a Blizzard account. The current account also allows you to register the different Battle.net games, so Battle.net 2.0 and the new Battle.net Forums will probably require a Blizzard Account as well. All of that being said, I believe it should just be on large forum since they both require a Blizzard Account. The account will probably be linked to everything Blizzard, hence the name Blizzard Account instead of Bnet account, etc, etc.
WotLK requires a "temporary Blizzard account" and isn't necessarily integrated into the rest of their products.  My WotLK account is separate, for instance, from my Blizzard Store account.

It doesn't have to be... I used the same account for WotLK that I did for my Blizzard "Store" Account that has all of my Battle.net games on it already.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: MyndFyre on August 22, 2008, 11:13 AM
Quote from: Sixen on August 22, 2008, 09:47 AM
It doesn't have to be... I used the same account for WotLK that I did for my Blizzard "Store" Account that has all of my Battle.net games on it already.
Correct.  My point was, though, that the current WotLK account can be transitive.  I made my WotLK account first; my Blizz Store account is the same email address but is physically different.  I'm not sure why they did it, but it seems to me like they don't intend to keep those as requirements moving forward.  Otherwise they would have been enforced.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Sixen on August 22, 2008, 12:04 PM
Quote from: MyndFyre[vL] on August 22, 2008, 11:13 AM
Correct.  My point was, though, that the current WotLK account can be transitive.  I made my WotLK account first; my Blizz Store account is the same email address but is physically different.  I'm not sure why they did it, but it seems to me like they don't intend to keep those as requirements moving forward.  Otherwise they would have been enforced.

What do you mean, Mynd? The Blizzard Store account is what's used on WotLK, =O. I used my original account (that I created the day the store opened) and it worked without any issues. So, it's all the same.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: MyndFyre on August 22, 2008, 12:06 PM
Quote from: Sixen on August 22, 2008, 12:04 PM
What do you mean, Mynd? The Blizzard Store account is what's used on WotLK, =O. I used my original account (that I created the day the store opened) and it worked without any issues. So, it's all the same.
I did not have a Store account when I registered for WotLK.  I thought they were the same until I tried to order my Blizzcon tickets, at which point I found out that I also had to create a Store account.  They are the same email address, but different passwords.  They're different accounts.  They can be the same, but they don't HAVE to be.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Sixen on August 22, 2008, 03:57 PM
Quote from: MyndFyre[vL] on August 22, 2008, 12:06 PM
Quote from: Sixen on August 22, 2008, 12:04 PM
What do you mean, Mynd? The Blizzard Store account is what's used on WotLK, =O. I used my original account (that I created the day the store opened) and it worked without any issues. So, it's all the same.
I did not have a Store account when I registered for WotLK.  I thought they were the same until I tried to order my Blizzcon tickets, at which point I found out that I also had to create a Store account.  They are the same email address, but different passwords.  They're different accounts.  They can be the same, but they don't HAVE to be.

Oh really? I'll have to look into that, I could've sworn it was the same database/system. Are you positive? =x.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: MyndFyre on August 23, 2008, 07:01 PM
Quote from: Sixen on August 22, 2008, 03:57 PM
Oh really? I'll have to look into that, I could've sworn it was the same database/system. Are you positive? =x.
Do I really, really have to repeat myself?
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Sixen on August 24, 2008, 12:03 AM
Quote from: MyndFyre[vL] on August 23, 2008, 07:01 PM
Quote from: Sixen on August 22, 2008, 03:57 PM
Oh really? I'll have to look into that, I could've sworn it was the same database/system. Are you positive? =x.
Do I really, really have to repeat myself?

If that's the case then you have me confused. You say they are different accounts, but they are the same accounts (sometimes).
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: iago on August 24, 2008, 11:35 AM
Inconsistency.. sounds like a vulnerability waiting to happen! :)
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: disco on August 24, 2008, 01:43 PM
Quote from: iago on August 24, 2008, 11:35 AM
Inconsistency.. sounds like a vulnerability waiting to happen! :)


Great quote.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: MyndFyre on August 24, 2008, 11:49 PM
Quote from: Sixen on August 24, 2008, 12:03 AM
If that's the case then you have me confused. You say they are different accounts, but they are the same accounts (sometimes).
I didn't invent the system.  This is what I know.

You said: Your Blizzard store account is the same account on which your WotLK key is active.
I said: My Blizzard store account is not the same account on which my WotLK key is active, because they are the same email address, but different passwords.
Conclusion I've drawn: Blizzard store accounts are not the same as WotLK temporary accounts.  They may have been the same for some people but been copied or something.

This really isn't that hard.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Invert on August 26, 2008, 09:25 PM
....and in conclusion, this is why I miss vL.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: c0ol on August 29, 2008, 01:19 PM
You guys are swell ;)
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: bulletproof tiger on August 29, 2008, 04:38 PM
there's no way that's the real c0ol !
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: c0ol on August 29, 2008, 05:36 PM
Quote from: chyea on August 29, 2008, 04:38 PM
there's no way that's the real c0ol !

Proof can be aquired!  I had an urge to check this forum for an interest un-related to this thread, but I couldn't resist reading.  Those were fun times for sure :)
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: bulletproof tiger on August 30, 2008, 03:13 AM
trust me, you know me. first saturday, or first sunday with your linux cd stand, whatever it was. send me a PM. it's been a long time man.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: c0ol on August 30, 2008, 09:10 PM
Quote from: chyea on August 30, 2008, 03:13 AM
trust me, you know me. first saturday, or first sunday with your linux cd stand, whatever it was. send me a PM. it's been a long time man.

Haha wow that was a long time ago it feels like.  I wonder if they still have first saturday...
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Grok on November 02, 2008, 03:29 AM
Battle.Net had its time, which came and went.  Things change, people change.  Those were good times, but they are over for me.  I think even when Starcraft 2 comes out, I will not be doing the same things on battle.net as before.  I really doubt most of Valhalla Legends cares much for that scene (in its previous incarnation of attitude) any more, or will again in the future.  Everyone has new interests and finds their challenges in different things.

Of course, I could just be speaking for myself.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Hostile on November 04, 2008, 01:41 PM
So Grok... if prop 8 is declined in California................... wanna get married?

Ohs and yeah I don't see historic battle.net attitude ever coming back amongst us... but I will buy Diablo 3 or Starcraft 2 so if they base it over battle.net I will be back on... there will probably be another channel and all but wouldn't expect it to be like old days. There is a decent amount of us planning to start playing those games again though! I think I will be out of the country once Diablo 3 comes out but will probably play it when I get back.
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Mystical on November 05, 2008, 05:00 PM
Quote from: Hostile on November 04, 2008, 01:41 PM
So Grok... if prop 8 is declined in California................... wanna get married?

Ohs and yeah I don't see historic battle.net attitude ever coming back amongst us... but I will buy Diablo 3 or Starcraft 2 so if they base it over battle.net I will be back on... there will probably be another channel and all but wouldn't expect it to be like old days. There is a decent amount of us planning to start playing those games again though! I think I will be out of the country once Diablo 3 comes out but will probably play it when I get back.

well i guess that just shows it'll be on battle.net I wonder how the new or clan channels will work..

Quote from: http://www.starcraft2.com
Features:

    * Fast-paced, hard-hitting, tightly balanced competitive real-time strategy gameplay that recaptures and improves on the magic of the original game
    * Three completely distinct races: Protoss, Terran, and Zerg
    * New units and gameplay mechanics further distinguish each race
    * Groundbreaking single-player campaign
    * Vibrant new 3D-graphics engine with support for dazzling visual effects and massive unit and army sizes
    * Full multiplayer support, with new competitive features and matchmaking utilities available through Battle.net
    * Full map-making and scripting tools to give players incredible freedom in customizing and personalizing their gameplay experience
Title: Re: I miss vL :( Spht Skywing Grok and Yoni come back!!!
Post by: Racial on November 05, 2008, 05:09 PM
Quote from: MyStiCaL on November 05, 2008, 05:00 PM
Quote from: Hostile on November 04, 2008, 01:41 PM
So Grok... if prop 8 is declined in California................... wanna get married?

Ohs and yeah I don't see historic battle.net attitude ever coming back amongst us... but I will buy Diablo 3 or Starcraft 2 so if they base it over battle.net I will be back on... there will probably be another channel and all but wouldn't expect it to be like old days. There is a decent amount of us planning to start playing those games again though! I think I will be out of the country once Diablo 3 comes out but will probably play it when I get back.

well i guess that just shows it'll be on battle.net I wonder how the new or clan channels will work..

Quote from: http://www.starcraft2.com
Features:

    * Fast-paced, hard-hitting, tightly balanced competitive real-time strategy gameplay that recaptures and improves on the magic of the original game
    * Three completely distinct races: Protoss, Terran, and Zerg
    * New units and gameplay mechanics further distinguish each race
    * Groundbreaking single-player campaign
    * Vibrant new 3D-graphics engine with support for dazzling visual effects and massive unit and army sizes
    * Full multiplayer support, with new competitive features and matchmaking utilities available through Battle.net
    * Full map-making and scripting tools to give players incredible freedom in customizing and personalizing their gameplay experience
map making baby! woot!