marijuana: to be legal or not?

[Mystical]

Since no one knows how to stay on topic on any thread on any part of this forum, I'd thought i'd put in my 2 cents.

I have always believed mary jane should be treated the same as alcohol, but the problem with that is you can't use a breathalizer to be tested when you get pulled over by a peace officer, so they'd have alot of problems detecting maryjane and they most certainly can't or have the time to just take everyone down to the station for a blood test. If they had some simple way by a machine device, to determine weather you were under the influnce of mary jane, im sure it could be legal n treated like alcohol with its same limitations and restrictions.

but because the furture is coming so fast, it'd be very hard to just one day legalize maryjane now, since some people including old people have grown to hate it thinkin its a very bad drug as years progressed, it'd just be out-raegous, the state would/might go into kaos from people that dont believe n maryjane like familys, mothers, fathers, church groups, drug free groups, all the people that are already n prison for maryjane weather its 1 day or life, it would be 2 much of a change for them to just make it legal.

this is why they have these medical cards to smoke maryjane, my brother has one, I'm feeling i might go get one to.

I didn't read half this topic as it was really big and not even on topic, I scanned through it, n i have to say, WAHHH you want me to call the wammmmmbulance.. i don't have good puncuation nor grammer, or spell correctly, get your pantys n a bunch else where.

[Barabajagal]

Why is weed illegal when salvia's not? That's what I want to know.

[Rule]

Ecstasy is not safe (compared to alcohol, marijuana, or most other things), Ringo.  I have friends who are medical doctors, and according to them, it's not uncommon to see people who have developed Parkinson's disease, or have even become paralyzed, through ecstasy use.

[Barabajagal]

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_media1.shtml

[Rule]

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_media1.shtml

That link doesn't change the fact that patients have come to my friends, days after having taken ecstasy, permanently afflicted with Parkinson's, or paralyzed.  It doesn't change the fact that ecstasy (especially "street ecstasy") has been rigorously linked to these problems.

Posting a link to a questionable website, with no comments, or anything meaningful to accompany the link, adds nothing to this discussion.

[Barabajagal]

Erowid is actually a pretty damn good site. And that page pretty much gives you the reason for the Parkinson's disease.

"...2002 "single dose of ecstasy causes Parkinson's" paper was invalid because his lab gave methamphetamine to the primates instead of MDMA."

E is laced with all kinds of things, and the most common these days is meth. E is not the cause, meth is. E has many problems, and I'd never try it, but lots of what people say about MDMA is just wrong.

I posted the link because I thought you'd be interested in it. Check out the rest of that site, if you want. It's got some great info.

[UserLoser]

Why is weed illegal when salvia's not? That's what I want to know.

Salvia possession is a felony as of Jan 1st of 08 in some states (if not all) now

[MrRaza]

Not in Canada! Wooo!

Although, having tried it once, it can become a pretty crazy drug.

I didn't like the feeling of not being able to control my movements or being able to see objects the way that i would of normally. So it's not a drug I use very often.

I do smoke weed, and have now for a couple of years. So far it hasn't really affected much in regards to school or anything else, I still achieved a 4.0 and have a really nice IT job that I worked hard for, and I haven't even graduated yet, couple more months left.

I smoke everyday for the most part, and have found it to be relaxing especially when I am stressed. Plus it makes food taste so much better. I haven't felt the health affects that everyone states that comes with marijuana and I'm still a level headed person and not all strung out.

I think it would be useless to legalize it and put taxes on it, I wouldn't by it from the government anyway since I could find better quaility at a cheaper cost from most of my friends. I also beleive that it would be policatical suicide for any polictian to attempt to legalize it because the general public frowns apon such ideas.

Although I do vote and I voted for the NDP, mainly for there stance on marijuana and other such ideas.

I can't believe what the U.S did to Marc Emery.

[Barabajagal]

Why is weed illegal when salvia's not? That's what I want to know.

Salvia possession is a felony as of Jan 1st of 08 in some states (if not all) now

http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_law.shtml

[Ringo]

Ecstasy is not safe (compared to alcohol, marijuana, or most other things), Ringo.  I have friends who are medical doctors, and according to them, it's not uncommon to see people who have developed Parkinson's disease, or have even become paralyzed, through ecstasy use.

Well, I cant really argue that, as I was just repeating somthing I heard somwhere.
I would have thought that most of that is caused by the crap MDMA pills are cut with (most arnt even reall MDMA, like them horse tranquilizer's ketelsen or w/e they are called)
I think orginaly MDMA was designed as a weight loss pill, but was to "buzzy".
I know rat posion was a common drug used to cut some drugs with
alcohol on the other hand, has good quality control, seems as its legal.
Afaik, the same is true with hashish somtimes being cut with things, to get the resin to stick together better, some glus being most common.

I dont have any links supporting this tho, just street rumors and persional experience.

[Barabajagal]

That's why one makes one's own hash

[UserLoser]

Why is weed illegal when salvia's not? That's what I want to know.

Salvia possession is a felony as of Jan 1st of 08 in some states (if not all) now

http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_law.shtml

what is this supposed to show me? i know for a fact it became illegal on 1/1/08 in illinois

[Barabajagal]

One state isn't "some" or "all". It's legal almost everywhere, still.

[UserLoser]

k i said some :dontknow:

[Ringo]

That's why one makes one's own hash

And then cuts it with somthing like glu before selling it on... :p