Talk about censorship

CrAz3D · January 12, 2006, 11:49 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/oxfordshire/4606022.stm

quasi-modo · January 12, 2006, 12:44 PM

eh... i don't see taking someone to court over that, but the guy is still an ass hole... mouthing off to a cop. In a perfect world the cop would have just been able to take out his baton and give him a nice thump.

Forged · January 12, 2006, 01:26 PM

God, what is this world coming to.... The guy spent a night in jail because he might have offended someone.

Explicit · January 12, 2006, 02:35 PM

It seems to me that the police officer was the one who found it offensive, particularly because it embarassed him. What does he decide to do? Make use of his authorital position and arrest the student. It's sad...

CrAz3D · January 12, 2006, 04:11 PM

Quote from: Explicit[nK] on January 12, 2006, 02:35 PM
It seems to me that the police officer was the one who found it offensive, particularly because it embarassed him. What does he decide to do? Make use of his authorital position and arrest the student. It's sad...

There is a law, it seems, about making homophobic remarks. Per the law, as I see it, the officer was correct in arresting the student. Its a stupid law probably made to prevent gay verbal-bashing.

Explicit · January 12, 2006, 04:19 PM

Quote from: CrAz3D on January 12, 2006, 04:11 PM
Quote from: Explicit[nK] on January 12, 2006, 02:35 PM
It seems to me that the police officer was the one who found it offensive, particularly because it embarassed him. What does he decide to do? Make use of his authorital position and arrest the student. It's sad...
There is a law, it seems, about making homophobic remarks. Per the law, as I see it, the officer was correct in arresting the student. Its a stupid law probably made to prevent gay verbal-bashing.

I can understand if it was enacted to prevent gay bashing, but the article states, "He made homophobic comments that were deemed offensive to people passing by." Since no one came out and said that the student's remark was offensive, I don't see any reason for the police officer to arrest him.

CrAz3D · January 12, 2006, 04:23 PM

Public Order Act Section 5 says...

Quote(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he—

(a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

(b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,

Seems someone got insulted so they arrested him.

http://www.webtribe.net/~shg/Public%20Order%20Act%201986%20(1986%20c%2064)%20Sect%204A,%205,%206.htm

Explicit · January 12, 2006, 04:25 PM

Quote from: CrAz3D on January 12, 2006, 04:23 PM
Public Order Act Section 5 says...

Quote(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he—

(a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

(b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,
Seems someone got insulted so they arrested him.

http://www.webtribe.net/~shg/Public%20Order%20Act%201986%20(1986%20c%2064)%20Sect%204A,%205,%206.htm

I guess. IMO though, it's a stupid law.

CrAz3D · January 12, 2006, 04:26 PM

Quote from: Explicit[nK] on January 12, 2006, 04:25 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on January 12, 2006, 04:23 PM
Public Order Act Section 5 says...

Quote(1) A person is guilty of an offence if he—

(a) uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or disorderly behaviour, or

(b) displays any writing, sign or other visible representation which is threatening, abusive or insulting,
Seems someone got insulted so they arrested him.

http://www.webtribe.net/~shg/Public%20Order%20Act%201986%20(1986%20c%2064)%20Sect%204A,%205,%206.htm

I guess. IMO though, it's a stupid law.

It is, people get their feelings hurt so you go to jail...dumb, w/e though

Explicit · January 12, 2006, 04:37 PM

Hmm, the article made no mention of someone reporting the student's remark as offensive besides the police officer having taken action by arresting him. Again, the article states, "He made homophobic comments that were deemed offensive to people passing by." Would that make the officer the passerbyer? If so, he would be arresting the student on behalf of his own feelings and not on people actually passing by.

Blah, just ranting, so don't mind me.

CrAz3D · January 12, 2006, 04:39 PM

Maybe some people looked @ the kid like he was retarded, I dunno.
Maybe the officer can judge was is offensive & not.

Yegg · January 12, 2006, 04:44 PM

Quote from: CrAz3D on January 12, 2006, 04:39 PM
Maybe some people looked @ the kid like he was retarded, I dunno.
Maybe the officer can judge was is offensive & not.

Anyone can judge what is offensive and what isn't. It's their opinion on the matter.

I think that the statement made by Mr. Brown could have been very offensive to the officer. It was directed to his horse. How do we know that his horse was not a very important part of his life? People have dogs in which they love very dearly, as if it was a person or a family member. The same case can be with a horse, or any other animal at that.

The kid should be put in jail for atleast three days. It will teach him a lesson to not to something that he never should have done in the first place.

Arta · January 12, 2006, 04:49 PM

Bad application of a good law. Homophobia is the last commonly accepted prejudice. Legislation to make clear that homophiba is just like any other form of bigotry is good.

This student, however, doesn't seem to have done anything particularly bad - this kind of law should be used to prosecute hateful gay-basing bigots, not students who make unwise off-the-cuff comments.

CrAz3D · January 12, 2006, 04:55 PM

Quote from: Arta[vL] on January 12, 2006, 04:49 PM
Bad application of a good law. Homophobia is the last commonly accepted prejudice. Legislation to make clear that homophiba is just like any other form of bigotry is good.

This student, however, doesn't seem to have done anything particularly bad - this kind of law should be used to prosecute hateful gay-basing bigots, not students who make unwise off-the-cuff comments.

It is actually a law against disorderly conduct, I speculated incorretly above.

The kid could've said "go screw your horse" & it would've been the same disorderly conduct. The kid broke the law. Its a petty offense, but an offense nonetheless.

EDIT:
After thinkin about it more, I spose it isn't really censorship as I originally though, more about public decency

Explicit · January 12, 2006, 06:08 PM

Quote from: Yegg on January 12, 2006, 04:44 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on January 12, 2006, 04:39 PM
Maybe some people looked @ the kid like he was retarded, I dunno.
Maybe the officer can judge was is offensive & not.

Anyone can judge what is offensive and what isn't. It's their opinion on the matter.

I think that the statement made by Mr. Brown could have been very offensive to the officer. It was directed to his horse. How do we know that his horse was not a very important part of his life? People have dogs in which they love very dearly, as if it was a person or a family member. The same case can be with a horse, or any other animal at that.

The kid should be put in jail for atleast three days. It will teach him a lesson to not to something that he never should have done in the first place.

If the officer shared a family-type bond with the horse, and were very intimate with it, wouldn't he have picked up on the horse's subtle gestures that he were gay?

Quote"Excuse me, do you realize that your horse is gay?"

Also, seeing as to how the article made no mention of the tone the student carried, I would think the above statement was made with respect, and he was merely pointing it out.