Goodbye 2nd amendment

[CrAz3D]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051109/ap_on_el_ge/san_francisco_measures


Someone tells me I can't keep a gun in my house I'll shove my gun up their ass.
No military recruiting?...pfft.  No military means no protection which means when the terrorist strike next (hopefully in San Fran) there won't be any repercussions

[Explicit]

How often do you see gun-related incidents in San Francisco, anyway?  I would think that if it's high, then this ban is justifiable.

[CrAz3D]

Cops & robbers arae gonna be the only ones with guns now, how does that make anything better?

And as I understood it, no citizen can own a gun PERIOD, with a dot.  Like not even locked in a gun safe buried in their backyard under a swimming pool, sheesh

[Newby]

What the fuck?

[iago]

Cops & robbers arae gonna be the only ones with guns now, how does that make anything better?

And as I understood it, no citizen can own a gun PERIOD, with a dot.  Like not even locked in a gun safe buried in their backyard under a swimming pool, sheesh

Where I live, the only legal guns are for hunting.  I've never seen a gun, and I don't know anybody (or even OF anybody) in my city who has been killed by a gun (except for by the police).  We get ~15-20 murders/year in my city, and they all tend to be beatings and similar. 

The argument you make SOUNDS good, but take it from somebody who's seen it in practice: it somehow works!

[hismajesty]

We have a murder or two every DAY.

[Banana fanna fo fanna]

Umm, the moral principles for such an argument are invalid, as this is legalizing the nullification of the Constitution by local governments.

[CrAz3D]

Umm, the moral principles for such an argument are invalid, as this is legalizing the nullification of the Constitution by local governments.

Word.

There is a whole little bit in the other thread about the Constitution being over written

[iago]

Well, is it possible that a document written 300 (about?) years ago might be outdated?  If the constitution said how many black slaves you were allowed, would you really continue to follow it, just because that's what was written?  This goes for the Bible, too; are actions/events from 2000 years ago consequential, or are they too out of date to matter?

Sorry for bringing up religion, but I'm trying to give you all something to think about here.  If you discount the Bible for being outdated (as I'm sure some of you do), you have to consider that the constitution might be, too. 

[Joe[x86]]

We have a murder or two every DAY.

You seriously live in Compton?

Well, is it possible that a document written 300 (about?) years ago might be outdated? If the constitution said how many black slaves you were allowed, would you really continue to follow it, just because that's what was written? This goes for the Bible, too; are actions/events from 2000 years ago consequential, or are they too out of date to matter?

Sorry for bringing up religion, but I'm trying to give you all something to think about here. If you discount the Bible for being outdated (as I'm sure some of you do), you have to consider that the constitution might be, too.

People who say the bible is outdated obviously don't read it very often anyhow =p

[Forged]

You seriously live in Compton?

That is common for most big cities...

[CrAz3D]

Well, is it possible that a document written 300 (about?) years ago might be outdated?  If the constitution said how many black slaves you were allowed, would you really continue to follow it, just because that's what was written?  This goes for the Bible, too; are actions/events from 2000 years ago consequential, or are they too out of date to matter?

Sorry for bringing up religion, but I'm trying to give you all something to think about here.  If you discount the Bible for being outdated (as I'm sure some of you do), you have to consider that the constitution might be, too. 

Like 215 years ago .  Anyways, but is there a portion of the Constitution that has to do with how many slaves I can own? 

[Grok]

Well, is it possible that a document written 300 (about?) years ago might be outdated?  If the constitution said how many black slaves you were allowed, would you really continue to follow it, just because that's what was written?  This goes for the Bible, too; are actions/events from 2000 years ago consequential, or are they too out of date to matter?

This type of thinking is exactly what you are being programmed to think.  Did you read the link I provided earlier?

The constitution is a list of powers given to our federal government.  All other powers remain with the states.  The only way any new power may be given to the federal government is by constitutional amendment.

iago, that's what it is all about, but that is not what is happening anymore.  Our government is heavily corrupted and our democracy is long gone.  A political philosopher once said that democracy can only sustain itself until those in power realize they can vote themselves wealth from the treasury.  That started happening with the 16th amendment only 70 years ago.  Now the government has you working 35% of the year for them and that is endentured servitude, or slavery.  Our nation's creators were never victims to the level of tyranny we have now.

[Invert]

"Liberalism is a mental disorder"
-Michael Savage

I am embarrassed to live in San Francisco. I also do not understand the logical thinking behind Preparation H. So all the people in the city that use their hand guns for protection and for recreational reasons will have to turn them in and the only people left with guns are the criminals and police.

My father owns a jewelry store with his partner and both of them keep a gun in the store for protection. Now with this new proposition they are not allowed to do that. The idiots that wrote this proposition don't even have a plan on a way to collect the firearms from people.

The constitution in this country once stood for something but now it's a mockery.
Unlike other countries the United States once-upon-a-time gave power to the people and not the government but now liberalism and corruption has us in a downward spin. Republicans and Democrats are all the same, corrupt liars.

Now on to military recruiters. I believe that this is absurd that people say that "our kids are not mature enough to be contacted by the recruiters and make those types of decisions" those same people pass out condoms in schools and those same people voted that a 13 year old girl can go have an abortion w/o letting her parents know about it.

Imagine a minority student that is in high school and his family can't afford for him to go to college. With military not being an option where would this person wind up?
Military is an option. When recruiters talk to you they always end up talking to your family if you are interested. They will never force you to do anything you don't want to do.

[dxoigmn]

"Liberalism is a mental disorder"
-Michael Savage

I am embarrassed to live in San Francisco. I also do not understand the logical thinking behind Preparation H. So all the people in the city that use their hand guns for protection and for recreational reasons will have to turn them in and the only people left with guns are the criminals and police.

My father owns a jewelry store with his partner and both of them keep a gun in the store for protection. Now with this new proposition they are not allowed to do that. The idiots that wrote this proposition don't even have a plan on a way to collect the firearms from people.

The constitution in this country once stood for something but now it's a mockery.
Unlike other countries the United States once-upon-a-time gave power to the people and not the government but now liberalism and corruption has us in a downward spin. Republicans and Democrats are all the same, corrupt liars.

Now on to military recruiters. I believe that this is absurd that people say that "our kids are not mature enough to be contacted by the recruiters and make those types of decisions" those same people pass out condoms in schools and those same people voted that a 13 year old girl can go have an abortion w/o letting her parents know about it.

Imagine a minority student that is in high school and his family can't afford for him to go to college. With military not being an option where would this person wind up?
Military is an option. When recruiters talk to you they always end up talking to your family if you are interested. They will never force you to do anything you don't want to do.

Wow I didn't know people took Michael Savage seriously. He must be a good brainwa...err talker.

You always mention liberalism as the sole cause of every thing wrong. Blah blah blah. Bush has probably given more power to the feds than any other president.

There is a difference between actively going and telling kids to have sex and allowing easy access to condoms (not they don't foricble give them condoms). Recruiting them for the military falls would be the same as teachers telling their kids to have sex. Allowing easy access to condoms knowing with high probability they'll have sex is the same as the military setting up shop across the street from schools and waiting for the kids to come to them. See the difference?

Nice burn on with the "minority student" stereotypically crap. But what happens to a poor white kid when there is no military option? I guess it isn't the same as what happens to the minority kid.