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Started by CrAz3D, March 22, 2005, 08:18 PM

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Hazard

The fact is, for more than a hundred years the Boy Scouts of America have raised fine and outstanding young men, some of the more notables in the list that I showed earlier in this thread. All but one of the men who set foot on the face of the moon were Eagle Scouts. The BSA has been doing *something* right for more than a century, and I applaud not only what they have done for the community but what they have done for me. I stand by the BSA here.

"Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway." --John Wayne

Forged

Quote from: CrAz3D on March 27, 2005, 12:39 AM
But they accepted us before, then said they couldn't support us any longer.  If they want to TRULY be non-discriminate, shouldn't they except *everyone*?

They are not being hypocritical.  They are withdrawing their finacial support of you because you are violating the principles they require you to have.
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CrAz3D

So they accept us & THEN look @ what we stand for?
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Quote from: Spht on June 22, 2004, 07:32 PMSlap.
Quote from: Adron on January 28, 2005, 09:17 AMIn a way, I believe that religion is inherently evil, which includes Christianity. I'd also say Christianity is eviller than Buddhism (has more potential for evil).
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Forged

Well it was not untill recentlly the whole ordeal got publicity. 
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Arta


Arta

Quote from: CrAz3D on March 25, 2005, 01:44 PM
It isn't the same thing.  Phobias are fears of something, I don't fear gay people, I don't agree with how they live their life.

That's not correct:

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ho·mo·pho·bi·a 
n.

   1. Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
   2. Behavior based on such a feeling.

Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition


Function: noun
Irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals

Source: Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

homophobia

n : prejudice against (fear or dislike of) homosexual people and homosexuality

Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University

Arta

Quote from: Hazard on March 27, 2005, 08:04 AM
The fact is, for more than a hundred years the Boy Scouts of America have raised fine and outstanding young men, some of the more notables in the list that I showed earlier in this thread. All but one of the men who set foot on the face of the moon were Eagle Scouts. The BSA has been doing *something* right for more than a century, and I applaud not only what they have done for the community but what they have done for me. I stand by the BSA here.

I don't dispute that that may well be the case. What's that got to do with gay people? Why must the 'something' be blatent prejudice? Is prejudice something we should instill in our youth? Is that a virtuous thing to do? Don't you find it unsettling that similar arguments to yours were used against black people in the last century?

EpicOfTimeWasted

So, what crazed is saying is that the BSA discriminating against gays is peachy and everyone should be fine with it, but LS&CO not supporting national groups that promote such discrimination is an outrage?

Am I missing something here... such as what LS&CO is doing wrong?

Hazard

Quote from: Arta[vL] on March 28, 2005, 06:46 AM
Quote from: Hazard on March 27, 2005, 08:04 AM
The fact is, for more than a hundred years the Boy Scouts of America have raised fine and outstanding young men, some of the more notables in the list that I showed earlier in this thread. All but one of the men who set foot on the face of the moon were Eagle Scouts. The BSA has been doing *something* right for more than a century, and I applaud not only what they have done for the community but what they have done for me. I stand by the BSA here.

I don't dispute that that may well be the case. What's that got to do with gay people? Why must the 'something' be blatent prejudice? Is prejudice something we should instill in our youth? Is that a virtuous thing to do? Don't you find it unsettling that similar arguments to yours were used against black people in the last century?

Should homosexuality be instilled in our youth?

"Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway." --John Wayne

Adron

Quote from: Hazard on March 28, 2005, 08:32 PM
Should homosexuality be instilled in our youth?

No. Should it be tolerated? Yes.

Forged

Quote from: Hazard on March 28, 2005, 08:32 PM
Quote from: Arta[vL] on March 28, 2005, 06:46 AM
Quote from: Hazard on March 27, 2005, 08:04 AM
The fact is, for more than a hundred years the Boy Scouts of America have raised fine and outstanding young men, some of the more notables in the list that I showed earlier in this thread. All but one of the men who set foot on the face of the moon were Eagle Scouts. The BSA has been doing *something* right for more than a century, and I applaud not only what they have done for the community but what they have done for me. I stand by the BSA here.

I don't dispute that that may well be the case. What's that got to do with gay people? Why must the 'something' be blatent prejudice? Is prejudice something we should instill in our youth? Is that a virtuous thing to do? Don't you find it unsettling that similar arguments to yours were used against black people in the last century?

Should homosexuality be instilled in our youth?

In the same way heterosexuality is I guess.  I don't necisarilly think we should sit our children down and force them to watch gay porn, but I don't think tolerance is such a horrible thing....
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CrAz3D

So you're sayin we should view/support/tolerate homo vs hetero all the same?  So when talking about sex w/your kids you'll have to give 2 talks always?
rebundance - having or being in excess of sheer stupidity
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Quote from: Spht on June 22, 2004, 07:32 PMSlap.
Quote from: Adron on January 28, 2005, 09:17 AMIn a way, I believe that religion is inherently evil, which includes Christianity. I'd also say Christianity is eviller than Buddhism (has more potential for evil).
Quote from: iago on April 19, 2005, 01:06 PM
CrAz3D's ... is too big vertically, at least, too big with ... iago ...

Forged

Not really.  My sex talk was a box of condoms and a run down of the diffrent stds and how bad they sucked.  Not really much in the way of 'This is how you do it'
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Arta

Quote from: Hazard on March 28, 2005, 08:32 PM
Should homosexuality be instilled in our youth?

What on earth makes you think that a gay person supervising children will 'instill homosexuality' into them? That's among the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

CrAz3D

Maybe the child will be more accepting of their way of life, not just the gay people themselves.  Then maybe the child will want to experiment
rebundance - having or being in excess of sheer stupidity
(ré-bun-dance)
Quote from: Spht on June 22, 2004, 07:32 PMSlap.
Quote from: Adron on January 28, 2005, 09:17 AMIn a way, I believe that religion is inherently evil, which includes Christianity. I'd also say Christianity is eviller than Buddhism (has more potential for evil).
Quote from: iago on April 19, 2005, 01:06 PM
CrAz3D's ... is too big vertically, at least, too big with ... iago ...

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