"Peaceful" Protestors, Not So Peaceful

[DOOM]

How is communism NOT a big government?!... they controll absolutely EVERY aspect of the country...what are you smoking?

Please read my posts in the future.

I specifically mentioned the idea "true communism."  Whenever you think of the Soviet Union, you are not thinking of true communism.

The points in my previous post still stand.

[Hazard]

Republicans favor a more laissez-faire form of government.

true republicans anyway, this current batch of neo-cons are only interested in their wallets and legislating morality.

Be careful not to step in the leftist bullshit.

People have used that same hippie rhetoric for hundreds of years against president's like Linclon, U.S. Grant, Teddy Roosevelet, Eisenhower, Ford, Reagan, H.W. Bush, etc. Don't pretend your stuff is anything we haven't heard before.

[Hazard]

Most of the right-wing contributors to this forum, however, really do seem to think that anyone left of center is stupid, idiotic, hipocritical, perpetually wrong, and in possession of nothing to offer.

What leftist groups are there out there that you see? International ANSWER, DAWN, the Democratic Underground, etc. These groups are stupid, idiotic, hipocritical, perpetually wrong and do possess something to offer, unfortunately they are all bad ideas.

[Forged]

Republicans favor a more laissez-faire form of government.

true republicans anyway, this current batch of neo-cons are only interested in their wallets and legislating morality.

Be careful not to step in the leftist bullshit.

People have used that same hippie rhetoric for hundreds of years against president's like Linclon, U.S. Grant, Teddy Roosevelet, Eisenhower, Ford, Reagan, H.W. Bush, etc. Don't pretend your stuff is anything we haven't heard before.

Grant was a drunk and possiblly the worst president we have ever had. Roosevelet was nothing super special, just a blown out of pruportion psuedo-superman, Eisenhower was a wartime president and that was about it. Ford I know little to nothing about, I was born to late and his achievments were to small I guess.  Reagen is another of those blown out of pruportion guys, he accomplished shit in his time as president.  Bush(the current one anyway) Has had a presidency to rival Grant's in shittiness. He has done nothing that has helped the country, and he continues to try to legislate on morality which is something I have wrong on the highest level.

[CrAz3D]

How is communism NOT a big government?!... they controll absolutely EVERY aspect of the country...what are you smoking?

He said true communism is not supposed to be about big government. I guess he is talking about communism on the villiage / small island scale... the only scale it will work on.

The only way there could be a small communist government, small in the sense that the government doesn't control ALL aspects of life, is if there were no aspects if life.  Under communism the government controls all property, all businesses, they control everything, how is that small?

[Forged]

In pure communism there is no goverment, in the sense that everyone just does their part, and shares equally.

[quasi-modo]

Republicans favor a more laissez-faire form of government.

true republicans anyway, this current batch of neo-cons are only interested in their wallets and legislating morality.

Be careful not to step in the leftist bullshit.

People have used that same hippie rhetoric for hundreds of years against president's like Linclon, U.S. Grant, Teddy Roosevelet, Eisenhower, Ford, Reagan, H.W. Bush, etc. Don't pretend your stuff is anything we haven't heard before.

Grant was a drunk and possiblly the worst president we have ever had. Roosevelet was nothing super special, just a blown out of pruportion psuedo-superman, Eisenhower was a wartime president and that was about it. Ford I know little to nothing about, I was born to late and his achievments were to small I guess.  Reagen is another of those blown out of pruportion guys, he accomplished shit in his time as president.  Bush(the current one anyway) Has had a presidency to rival Grant's in shittiness. He has done nothing that has helped the country, and he continues to try to legislate on morality which is something I have wrong on the highest level.

Reagan Blown out of proportion? You claim to be a libertarian but you fail to see his great economic accomplishments? During his presidency we saw kinseanism in action for the first time on a large scale here in the united states.

Since when is the current bush allowing trusts to corrupt the governemnt up to the cabinet level? I see no Credit Mobilier scandal. Please when you answer, avoid using Michael Moorish bs to back up your response. Bush and Grant have absolutly nothing in common, trying to compare the two shows a certain ignorance about the administration of one or the other.

[quasi-modo]

In pure communism there is no goverment, in the sense that everyone just does their part, and shares equally.

Which is exactly why it can only exist on a very small scale... otherwise corruption of the system will set in. That is when we end up wearing green shoes.

[hismajesty]

Republicans favor a more laissez-faire form of government.

true republicans anyway, this current batch of neo-cons are only interested in their wallets and legislating morality.

Be careful not to step in the leftist bullshit.

People have used that same hippie rhetoric for hundreds of years against president's like Linclon, U.S. Grant, Teddy Roosevelet, Eisenhower, Ford, Reagan, H.W. Bush, etc. Don't pretend your stuff is anything we haven't heard before.

Grant was a drunk and possiblly the worst president we have ever had. Roosevelet was nothing super special, just a blown out of pruportion psuedo-superman, Eisenhower was a wartime president and that was about it. Ford I know little to nothing about, I was born to late and his achievments were to small I guess. Reagen is another of those blown out of pruportion guys, he accomplished shit in his time as president. Bush(the current one anyway) Has had a presidency to rival Grant's in shittiness. He has done nothing that has helped the country, and he continues to try to legislate on morality which is something I have wrong on the highest level.

Wrong. Howard Taft is considered to be the worst president in history.

[CrAz3D]

This shows otherwise: http://www.infoplease.com/spot/presrankings1.html

Lincoln is #1, FDR is #2, Washington #3.  Buchanan is last.  Regan is #11.

[hismajesty]

This shows otherwise: http://www.infoplease.com/spot/presrankings1.html

Lincoln is #1, FDR is #2, Washington #3. Buchanan is last. Regan is #11.

Odd, I could have sworn last year in Government we learned Taft was considered the worse. Even whitehouse.gov says he was a poor politician. Anyway...

[CrAz3D]

http://www.americanpresidents.org/survey/historians/
shows that Taft is rated 1 notch higher than Nixon.

[DOOM]

How is communism NOT a big government?!... they controll absolutely EVERY aspect of the country...what are you smoking?

He said true communism is not supposed to be about big government. I guess he is talking about communism on the villiage / small island scale... the only scale it will work on.

The only way there could be a small communist government, small in the sense that the government doesn't control ALL aspects of life, is if there were no aspects if life.  Under communism the government controls all property, all businesses, they control everything, how is that small?

I suggest you read the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx.

[quasi-modo]

It does not matter, Grant was a 'great' general (if you consider just using overwhelming numbers to be a real innovative strategy), but he was not a great president. He failed to see massive corruption leaking into his administration. There is no similarity between him and Bush.

[Forged]

Which is exactly why it can only exist on a very small scale...

I wasn't arguing that it would work, I was merelly stating.

There is no similarity between him and Bush.

I wasn't really comparing their actions to be similar, I was comparing how they were both really shitty presidents.