"Peaceful" Protestors, Not So Peaceful

[Arta]

I am never absolutist

I find that surprising. I make an effort to acknowledge other people's points, and I know I've agreed on something with most people here at least once. I don't think I make unconstrained statements about things. I try to qualify potentially sweeping statements so people know what I'm referring to.

In short, I tend not to make statements like:

But if you let your values and morals degrade your country becomes a cesspool

[DOOM]

I think it is quite apparent that not all members of the Left or the Right fall into the category of hypocricy and doesn't really need to be explicitly stated every time we have a conversation.  However, it seems that it is only the far Left (where most of the hypocricy on the Left lies) that gets much air time.  There are plenty of really good, intelligent people out there that are Liberals (Joseph Lieberman is the one that comes immediately to my mind).  But it doesn't seem like we get to hear too much about what they think.  Instead we get to hear stories of Liberals saying how much they hate America and how they want to move to Canada and how Bush is the next Adolf Hitler.  In my opinion, the political Left as a whole is being hurt by this.  I wouldn't sit back and do nothing if a bunch of Fascists were the only voice of the Right, why do so many Democrats seem content to let the Far Left speak for them?

[Arta]

Since I'm in the UK and am not often exposed to the American media, I don't really feel qualified to comment.

I will say, however, that the far right in the US is just as absurd as the far left. Just look at people like Ann Coulter. It wouldn't bother me if someone took all these stupid pundits, on both sides of the political divide, and dropped them off a cliff. It would certainly raise the tone of American political debate.

[CrAz3D]

True, all extremeists should be shot, .. heh, that is a little extreme of me, BUT a very true thing   .

Main Entry:     hypocrite
Part of Speech:     noun
Definition:     pretender
Synonyms:     actor, attitudinizer, backslider, bigot, bluffer, casuist, charlatan, cheat, con man, crook, deceiver, decoy, dissembler, dissimulator, fake, faker, four-flusher, fraud, hook, humbug, imposter, impostor, informer, lip server, malingerer, masquerader, mountebank, pharisee, phony, playactor, poser, pretender, quack, sham, sharper, smoothie, sophist, stool pigeon, swindler, trickster, two-face, two-timer, whited sepulcher, wolf

You have to admit that the LEFT is more vocal about their stool pigeonness.  Alec Baldwin, or whoever that guy is, saying he's gonna leave the country when Bush is re-elected, I didn't see any RIGHTS saying that they'd leave if Kerry was next.

[hismajesty]

Since I'm in the UK and am not often exposed to the American media, I don't really feel qualified to comment.

I will say, however, that the far right in the US is just as absurd as the far left. Just look at people like Ann Coulter. It wouldn't bother me if someone took all these stupid pundits, on both sides of the political divide, and dropped them off a cliff. It would certainly raise the tone of American political debate.

Pssh, Ann Coulter rocks. She's like a more tasteful, better looking, more intelligent, less misleading, thinner Michael Moore.

The Democratic party had good intentions, and all of the politicians are well educated and I don't mind. For example, John Kerry, Joesph Liberman, John Edwards, Bill Clinton. They all may have bad characteristics, but they're all intelligent. However, when we get all these kids who don't know what they're talking about and say they're Democrats because a) their parents are b) they want something free or c) they want drugs legalized speaking for the party, it gives the world the wrong impression. Michael Moore doesn't help much either, which is why even the Democrats have told him to shut up. I guess they'd want him to, though, since he did help Bush win in both elections. (He worked for Naders campaign in 2000, and we all know Nader took a lot of Gores votes in Florida)

[Forged]

So a group of people went to a protest to cause trouble and got their asskicked by anarchist  keyword their anarchist last I checked anarchist weren't exactlly the liberal left...

[hismajesty]

Hm, actually, I've been wondering - why do anarchists consider themselves to be libs? They're anti-Government, which makes no sense. (Government was abolished in some country within the past century (I forget which) and all hell broke loose)

But anyway, if somebody is anti-Government, they'd obviously want less Government involvement and Republicans favor a more laissez-faire form of government.

[Arta]

Well, that's a dangerous road to go down. I very much doubt that there's much difference between Moore and Coulter in reality. I think you like Coulter because you agree with her, and I like Moore because I agree, mostly, with him. You say Moore is a douche (basically), but the stuff I've read by Al Franken about Coulter makes me think that Coulter must be a complete anus. In reality, they're all just as bad as eachother.

PS: This is the perspective to which I was referring earlier.

[hismajesty]

I think Coulter would give off more of an elitist persona while Moore would just look for ways to make you look like a moron. (Did anyone notice nearly everybody he interviews in BFC he makes look like a total idiot?)

[DOOM]

Hm, actually, I've been wondering - why do anarchists consider themselves to be libs? They're anti-Government, which makes no sense. (Government was abolished in some country within the past century (I forget which) and all hell broke loose)

But anyway, if somebody is anti-Government, they'd obviously want less Government involvement and Republicans favor a more laissez-faire form of government.

But then, true communism [communism being associated with the political Left] wasn't supposed to be about big government either.

Also, keep in mind that Fascism [being associated with the political right] was just a form of Socialism [which is commonly associated with the political left].

So you can't easilly make distinctions like that.

[CrAz3D]

How is communism NOT a big government?!... they controll absolutely EVERY aspect of the country...what are you smoking?

[Hazard]

The hypocricy of the left. *Sigh*

[Arta]

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[Forged]

Republicans favor a more laissez-faire form of government.

true republicans anyway, this current batch of neo-cons are only interested in their wallets and legislating morality.

[quasi-modo]

How is communism NOT a big government?!... they controll absolutely EVERY aspect of the country...what are you smoking?

He said true communism is not supposed to be about big government. I guess he is talking about communism on the villiage / small island scale... the only scale it will work on.