job salaries

[tenbytes]

what do people with computer engineer degrees make having no experience? 5 years experience?

and would having a business degree increase it? i'm considering dual majoring in computer engineering and business, not for the money, but I would like to have the condo and benz. 

thanks.

[iago]

I was working a student "IT Security" job, and was making $18.96.  That's no experience, but a bit of a different field then you're asking about.

But remember, it's not about the money, it's about doing what you enjoy

[tenbytes]

But remember, it's not about the money, it's about doing what you enjoy

sure, if you grew up rich or weathly

[iago]

But remember, it's not about the money, it's about doing what you enjoy

sure, if you grew up rich or weathly

I didn't.  I didn't grow up poor, but I have to work and buy most stuff for myself.  But given two jobs where one pays decently more but looks crappy, I'd pick the job I'd enjoy, easily.  It was a coincidence that the job I wanted (Security) was the highest paying student job this term

[quasi-modo]

I am going into computer engineering, and I believe the starting pay was around 50,000. I dont know what it is after five years, but it is only going to go up! I would imagine your pay would be almost 6 figures if you have experience.

[Grok]

I didn't.  I didn't grow up poor, but I have to work and buy most stuff for myself.  But given two jobs where one pays decently more but looks crappy, I'd pick the job I'd enjoy, easily.  It was a coincidence that the job I wanted (Security) was the highest paying student job this term

Ah, different philosophies lead to different opinions.  The advice I give people is take the higher paying job that you dislike, make a lot of money, and go home to spend it on things you really love.

The "starving artist" is a perfect example.  He loves what he does, but cannot afford to eat.  Meanwhile, the CEO of a Fortune 500 company has enough money to spend on all the art supplies he wants, while eating fresh lobster, even flying to Maine for dinner.

[tenbytes]

Ah, different philosophies lead to different opinions.  The advice I give people is take the higher paying job that you dislike, make a lot of money, and go home to spend it on things you really love.

The "starving artist" is a perfect example.  He loves what he does, but cannot afford to eat.  Meanwhile, the CEO of a Fortune 500 company has enough money to spend on all the art supplies he wants, while eating fresh lobster, even flying to Maine for dinner.

yup 

[tA-Kane]

I didn't.  I didn't grow up poor, but I have to work and buy most stuff for myself.  But given two jobs where one pays decently more but looks crappy, I'd pick the job I'd enjoy, easily.  It was a coincidence that the job I wanted (Security) was the highest paying student job this term

Ah, different philosophies lead to different opinions. The advice I give people is take the higher paying job that you dislike, make a lot of money, and go home to spend it on things you really love.

The "starving artist" is a perfect example. He loves what he does, but cannot afford to eat. Meanwhile, the CEO of a Fortune 500 company has enough money to spend on all the art supplies he wants, while eating fresh lobster, even flying to Maine for dinner.

The problem with that CEO is that in order to make all that money, he's likely not able to spend as much time with family. So even though he flies to Maine to eat fresh lobster, dinner isn't a long time to spend with your family.

[dxoigmn]

The problem with that CEO is that in order to make all that money, he's likely not able to spend as much time with family. So even though he flies to Maine to eat fresh lobster, dinner isn't a long time to spend with your family.

If he has a family, and at least he can eat.

[tA-Kane]

What would be better: a high-paying job without a family or a low-paying job with a family?

Hint: if you answered the first of the two, you are a greedy bastard.

[R.a.B.B.i.T]

Or maybe your whole family was brutally murdered and they are no longer alive (and at this point you had money already).

[muert0]

What would be better: a high-paying job without a family or a low-paying job with a family?

Hint: if you answered the first of the two, you are a greedy bastard.

It's quite possible to have a high paying job with a family.

[j0k3r]

How about a well paying job with a family? I plan to live on my own until around 30, working on my job and whatever, then settling in with a family when I'm well enough off.

[Grok]

Bad assumption to imply or hint that a well-paid person is not a familiy person, or does not have time for their family.  You're simply looking for a reason to take a low-paying job that you love rather than a higher-paying job you despise.  But I'll go with you on this and say --- if you loved that family, you would martyr yourself and take the higher-paying job to give your family a nicer lifestyle.  Since you picked the job you loved with low pay, you're a selfish bastard.

[Mephisto]

Good one Grok. 

At any rate, I've been hearing that it's becoming very difficult to get a decent job in the computer industry these days; especially with the increasing competition over the years and into the future.