Kerry Concedes to Bush

[Kp]

European countries wanted Kerry didn't they?

I heard an interesting theory on this recently.  The gist is that the European leaders are secretly pleased Bush won, as now they can continue to refuse to send troops.  After endorsing Kerry like they did, they'd be harder pressed to deny him help than they would to deny Bush (and if they'd truly wanted to get involved, they'd do it no matter who was president here).  So, Bush's victory saves them from the political rock&hard place of sending troops (undesirable at home) vs. denying Kerry (whom they'd previously supported).

Don't be so sure, the Democrats don't have a candidate.

Eh, they have four years.  Even if we assume half of it will be spent moaning about Bush, that still gives them two years to pull a campaign together.

[hismajesty]

European countries wanted Kerry didn't they?

Maybe the citizens, but I doubt the leaders (except maybe France.) But we do know that Kim Jong Il wanted Kerry, if Communists for Kerry was a serious organization, he'd be the head of it.

[Falcon[anti-yL]]

I'll bet all the terrorists wanted Kerry so they could "negotiate" and then blow us up again.

[MyndFyre]

I'll bet all the terrorists wanted Kerry so they could "negotiate" and then blow us up again.

Kerry: Mr. Il, sir, would you mind joining with me, President Chirac, and the prophet Bin-Laden?

Jong-Il: Are we meeting in Geneva again?  I really wanted to meet in Pyong-yang.

Kerry: Colonel al-Qadhafi wanted us to meet in Tripoli.

Jong-Il: Hrm.  Sure, that would be fine.

Kerry: Pick you up around seven?

Jong-Il: I'll be here!

[Mephisto]

You'd expect them to have a candidate ready immediately after the election?  *shrug*  Besides that, at last minute they could always put Gore (like they originally wanted but Gore didn't because he thought it would look like a showdown rivalry match between Gore & Bush) who would probably be elected or run close. 

[Hazard]

You'd expect them to have a candidate ready immediately after the election?  *shrug*  Besides that, at last minute they could always put Gore (like they originally wanted but Gore didn't because he thought it would look like a showdown rivalry match between Gore & Bush) who would probably be elected or run close. 

No matter what you may think, Gore would not have won the election.

[Adron]

European countries wanted Kerry didn't they?

I heard an interesting theory on this recently.  The gist is that the European leaders are secretly pleased Bush won, as now they can continue to refuse to send troops.  After endorsing Kerry like they did, they'd be harder pressed to deny him help than they would to deny Bush

This is probably partly true. Maybe not secretly pleased, but I'm sure it's a relief to some people that USA still leads the evil axis. Much easier to focus your people that way.

[Mephisto]

You'd expect them to have a candidate ready immediately after the election?  *shrug*  Besides that, at last minute they could always put Gore (like they originally wanted but Gore didn't because he thought it would look like a showdown rivalry match between Gore & Bush) who would probably be elected or run close. 

No matter what you may think, Gore would not have won the election.

And you say this why?

[hismajesty]

And you say this why?

In the first full study of Florida's ballots since the election ended, The Miami Herald and USA Today reported George W. Bush would have widened his 537-vote victory to a 1,665-vote margin if the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court would have been allowed to continue, using standards that would have allowed even faintly dimpled "undervotes" -- ballots the voter has noticeably indented but had not punched all the way through -- to be counted.

Also, a lot of the places florida recounts happened were elderly, middle to upper class, white, and retired - typical description of a republican voter.

[Mephisto]

And you say this why?

In the first full study of Florida's ballots since the election ended, The Miami Herald and USA Today reported George W. Bush would have widened his 537-vote victory to a 1,665-vote margin if the recount ordered by the Florida Supreme Court would have been allowed to continue, using standards that would have allowed even faintly dimpled "undervotes" -- ballots the voter has noticeably indented but had not punched all the way through -- to be counted.

Also, a lot of the places florida recounts happened were elderly, middle to upper class, white, and retired - typical description of a republican voter.

So what's a typical description of a democrat?  I know so many people who are like that description who are democrats/republicans I think that that's a totally invalid statement.

[hismajesty]

According to my AP Government class last year, the sterotypical democrat is: uneducated, poor, female, and a minority.

[Hazard]

According to my AP Government class last year, the sterotypical democrat is: uneducated, poor, female, and a minority.

Eh... that could be considered true. The demographics Democrats tend to win are those without or only with a high school diploma/GED, women, lower class, and african-american.

[quasi-modo]

According to my AP Government class last year, the sterotypical democrat is: uneducated, poor, female, and a minority.

Eh... that could be considered true. The demographics Democrats tend to win are those without or only with a high school diploma/GED, women, lower class, and african-american.

Though they also control the extremely educated minority: Those with PHDs and other forms of extra schooling. One theory suggests this is because they have been in the liberal college setting for a bit too long.

[Hazard]

Another simple way to describe it is to ask yourself what is included in this "highly educated" minority. Does this include lawyers, because there is your explaination. More often than not you will notice medical doctors tend to vote Republican because of the Republicans battling malpractice bullshit and Democrats and lawyers, well, they're a pretty slimy group. Also you might ask if these "doctors" are professors or teacher in the school system, because that would also add to the explaination.

[quasi-modo]

College professors would definatly be in this. They will drag it to the left. Lawyers will drag it to the left. But how long have doctors gone right? They are now because of the bush reforms, but I thought they were historically lefties.