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[Barabajagal]

Frustrate the bajezes out of a vetran pc user?

[Newby]

You figure it'd be the opposite, since there's a terminal where it's basically UNIX underneath...

[Falcon[anti-yL]]

The iPod is great, it's not meant to be upgraded every year or so, like a computer is.  The iPhone is a POS.

How is a computer "meant to be upgraded every year so?"

What do you mean by "and then some?" What is that "and then some?" What can a Mac do that a PC can't?

After thinking about it, since Mac switched to Intel CPUs, PCs and Macs can both do the same things, especially with VMWare and other virtualization software. Theres nothing one can do that the other cannot. By the way I'm not a Mac fan or anything, both my computers are PCs, I just wanted to point out that there isn't much difference between them in terms of capability.

[Barabajagal]

Upgrade: Replaceable parts. You can't replace parts on an iPod yourself.

[rabbit]

After thinking about it, since Mac switched to Intel CPUs, PCs and Macs can both do the same things, especially with VMWare and other virtualization software. Theres nothing one can do that the other cannot.

Uhh...yeah.  PCs can do everything a Mac can for half the price.

[Barabajagal]

OOH! ya, that's one thing a mac can do that a pc can't! Charge you shitloads for cheap knockoffs of standard equipment!

[l2k-Shadow]

[Falcon[anti-yL]]

After thinking about it, since Mac switched to Intel CPUs, PCs and Macs can both do the same things, especially with VMWare and other virtualization software. Theres nothing one can do that the other cannot.

Uhh...yeah.  PCs can do everything a Mac can for half the price.

Yea, people buy them for their design and looks, rather than what it can do. I doubt people that can afford Macs are too worried about money issues anyways.

OOH! ya, that's one thing a mac can do that a pc can't! Charge you shitloads for cheap knockoffs of standard equipment!

I didn't know a Mac can charge you money, I always thought Apple was the one doing that.

Upgrade: Replaceable parts. You can't replace parts on an iPod yourself.

Replacing and upgrading are 2 separate things. If you replace a battery for example with another identical one, that is not an upgrade.

[Barabajagal]

OOH! ya, that's one thing a mac can do that a pc can't! Charge you shitloads for cheap knockoffs of standard equipment!

I didn't know a Mac can charge you money, I always thought Apple was the one doing that.

Upgrade: Replaceable parts. You can't replace parts on an iPod yourself.

Replacing and upgrading are 2 separate things. If you replace a battery for example with another identical one, that is not an upgrade.

You'd be surprised what you can order through a mac without visiting an actual website

And if you replace a processor you've had for 5 years with the exact same processor, you're either broke or stupid.

[Falcon[anti-yL]]

OOH! ya, that's one thing a mac can do that a pc can't! Charge you shitloads for cheap knockoffs of standard equipment!

I didn't know a Mac can charge you money, I always thought Apple was the one doing that.

Upgrade: Replaceable parts. You can't replace parts on an iPod yourself.

Replacing and upgrading are 2 separate things. If you replace a battery for example with another identical one, that is not an upgrade.

You'd be surprised what you can order through a mac without visiting an actual website

And if you replace a processor you've had for 5 years with the exact same processor, you're either broke or stupid.

What about faulty components? Maybe I just replaced a component to get it to work, and didn't really need something better.

[rabbit]

Then you're stupid.  A component is faulty if 1) it's old or 2) it's a piece of crap.  If it's old, you can probably get a better part for the same price you paid for the original.  If it's a piece of crap and you get it again, you're an idiot.

[Barabajagal]

Wow. Thanks for backing me up, rabbit!

[Falcon[anti-yL]]

Then you're stupid.  A component is faulty if 1) it's old or 2) it's a piece of crap.  If it's old, you can probably get a better part for the same price you paid for the original.  If it's a piece of crap and you get it again, you're an idiot.

A faulty component doesn't necessarily mean the cause is one of those two things. Besides, my point was that replacing is not the same as upgrading, and not whether the choice of replacement was a smart decision or not.

Replacing and upgrading are 2 separate things. If you replace a battery for example with another identical one, that is not an upgrade.

Upgrading is replacing a component with a better one, but replacing simply means replacing, the replacement could be a crappier or a better one or even the same. Whether it was a smart decision or not is irrelevant in the case I'm trying to make.

[Barabajagal]

And our point is that anyone who replaces a component with one of equal or lesser quality should not be doing so under normal circumstances. If you replace something, it makes logical sense to upgrade at the same time, since whatever you're replacing's newest version is probably the same price as whatever old version you bought before was when you bought it, if not cheaper.

[Falcon[anti-yL]]

And our point is that anyone who replaces a component with one of equal or lesser quality should not be doing so under normal circumstances. If you replace something, it makes logical sense to upgrade at the same time, since whatever you're replacing's newest version is probably the same price as whatever old version you bought before was when you bought it, if not cheaper.

... If you agree with me then you agree that replace and upgrade are two different things, if you disagree then you believe that replace and upgrade are the same thing, its that simple. I don't care about whether it makes logical sense to upgrade when replacing. I stated my reasons and examples to support my belief, if you believe otherwise, then please do give explanations of why you think "replace" and "upgrade" mean the same thing. Even though upgrading makes logical sense, does that change the fact that the two words have different meanings?