Google sets a double standard

CrAz3D · January 25, 2006, 07:45 PM

Why is it that when the U.S. government asks for material regarding porn searhes Google says no because its against their beliefs or w/e but when China says to censor all the info Google says "okey dokey".

Fuck Google.
Bunch of hypocrits, they're just in it for the money now. Quite ruthless of them to do such a thing for millions of dollars so obviously.

Invert · January 25, 2006, 08:00 PM

We have certain freedoms in the United States that they do not have in China.

iago · January 25, 2006, 08:01 PM

Quote from: CrAz3D on January 25, 2006, 07:45 PM
Why is it that when the U.S. government asks for material regarding porn searhes Google says no because its against their beliefs or w/e but when China says to censor all the info Google says "okey dokey".

Fuck Google.
Bunch of hypocrits, they're just in it for the money now. Quite ruthless of them to do such a thing for millions of dollars so obviously.

I think privacy violations and censorship are extremely different concepts, and I don't see how supporting privacy and not supporting censorship is hypocritical in the least.

CrAz3D · January 25, 2006, 08:07 PM

Google is bowing to the almighty growing Chinese economy which they want a huge part of.
If Google was a growing here & the US economy was growing as much as China's Google would do w/e the US said just to get an in & be able to make money here, that is the hypocrisy of it.

I understand that we have freedoms & I agree that the government shouldn't be flipping through search records...but I also think that Google shouldn't be bowing to the Chinese (insert currency)

iago · January 25, 2006, 08:38 PM

Quote from: CrAz3D on January 25, 2006, 08:07 PM
Google is bowing to the almighty growing Chinese economy which they want a huge part of.
If Google was a growing here & the US economy was growing as much as China's Google would do w/e the US said just to get an in & be able to make money here, that is the hypocrisy of it.

I understand that we have freedoms & I agree that the government shouldn't be flipping through search records...but I also think that Google shouldn't be bowing to the Chinese (insert currency)

God your posts are irritating to read. Can't you just type out "and" and "whatever"? It drives me crazy.

Anyways, Google is respecting the policies of China, and they're respecting the policies of the US. There's no problem.

CrAz3D · January 25, 2006, 08:49 PM

Quote from: iago on January 25, 2006, 08:38 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on January 25, 2006, 08:07 PM
Google is bowing to the almighty growing Chinese economy which they want a huge part of.
If Google was a growing here & the US economy was growing as much as China's Google would do w/e the US said just to get an in & be able to make money here, that is the hypocrisy of it.

I understand that we have freedoms & I agree that the government shouldn't be flipping through search records...but I also think that Google shouldn't be bowing to the Chinese (insert currency)

God your posts are irritating to read. Can't you just type out "and" and "whatever"? It drives me crazy.

Anyways, Google is respecting the policies of China, and they're respecting the policies of the US. There's no problem.

They aren't respecting the policies of the United State...the searches were subpoenaed...that means BY LAW they're supposed to be handed over because there was probably cause for them to be requested by a court

CrAz3D · January 25, 2006, 08:54 PM

Side ntoe:
Why didn't Google just stop keeping records of the searches if they wanted to REALLY keep our pivacy. What happens if someone hacks into Google?

The search info Google has is far to valuable to not keep or even to release. If they release info they lose costumer base. The customer base they'd lose would be a HUGE part of the online porn industry, a multi million dollar industry that I'm quite sure ends up paying Google millions in some way or another

iago · January 25, 2006, 10:12 PM

Quote from: CrAz3D on January 25, 2006, 08:54 PM
Side ntoe:
Why didn't Google just stop keeping records of the searches if they wanted to REALLY keep our pivacy. What happens if someone hacks into Google?

Because Google's method of making money is data-mining. If they started deleting search data, they'd destroy their entire purpose.

I don't like that fact about Google, but it's the truth.

CrAz3D · January 26, 2006, 12:41 AM

Quote from: iago on January 25, 2006, 10:12 PM
Quote from: CrAz3D on January 25, 2006, 08:54 PM
Side ntoe:
Why didn't Google just stop keeping records of the searches if they wanted to REALLY keep our pivacy. What happens if someone hacks into Google?

Because Google's method of making money is data-mining. If they started deleting search data, they'd destroy their entire purpose.

I don't like that fact about Google, but it's the truth.

It jsut bugs that they were all "we're not gonna be evil", now they're totaly evil & VERY obvious about it

iago · January 26, 2006, 07:46 AM

Quote from: CrAz3D on January 26, 2006, 12:41 AM
Quote from: iago on January 25, 2006, 10:12 PM
Because Google's method of making money is data-mining. If they started deleting search data, they'd destroy their entire purpose.

I don't like that fact about Google, but it's the truth.
It jsut bugs that they were all "we're not gonna be evil", now they're totaly evil & VERY obvious about it

I guess it goes back to your definition of "evil" then. Why is data-mining for the purposes of advertising evil?

Arta · January 26, 2006, 07:59 AM

It's not, but censoring their results in China is a gray area, if not just completely bad. It's a really disappointing decision.

Eric · January 26, 2006, 08:11 AM

Quote from: Arta[vL] on January 26, 2006, 07:59 AM
It's not, but censoring their results in China is a gray area, if not just completely bad. It's a really disappointing decision.

China has a number of laws reguarding pornography... I'd imagine Google was just adhering to those laws.

iago · January 26, 2006, 09:30 AM

Quote from: Arta[vL] on January 26, 2006, 07:59 AM
It's not, but censoring their results in China is a gray area, if not just completely bad. It's a really disappointing decision.

It's hard to say. I suspect that if the US or Canada made some law that restricts access to certain content on the Internet, Google would filter it out if requested. It's not really our right or responsibility to critisize China's laws. Like them or not, they exist.

CrAz3D · January 26, 2006, 10:16 AM

Its not our right to critisize Chinese laws, then why do SO MANY other countries critisize U.S. law & even Bush. "Like them or not, they exist."

Google isn't just censoring porn, they don't return any info that might possibly ever make the Chinese government look bad.
They're catering to every whim of the Chinese just to make money while not helping victims of child pornography in the U.S.

Google is just saying "screw the little kids" just to make some more money, I think that is evil.

Grok · January 26, 2006, 11:19 AM

Quote from: iago on January 26, 2006, 09:30 AM
Quote from: Arta[vL] on January 26, 2006, 07:59 AM
It's not, but censoring their results in China is a gray area, if not just completely bad. It's a really disappointing decision.
It's hard to say. I suspect that if the US or Canada made some law that restricts access to certain content on the Internet, Google would filter it out if requested. It's not really our right or responsibility to critisize China's laws. Like them or not, they exist.

I disagree. It is both our right and responsibility to criticize tyrannical laws wherever they exist, Canada, USA, Britain, China, Korea, doesn't matter where.

It is not our right to disobey those laws when doing business in their borders, no matter how much we disagree with them. It is our responsibility to comply, or stay out.