Blame Canada (I mean U.S.)

[Blaze]

http://www.x86labs.org:81/forum/index.php/topic,4342.0.html

I blame Columbians for the drugs, and Americans for the guns.

[Joe[x86]]

Crazed: Yes.

[Warrior]

Of course it is, you're providing him with the murder weapon and he's comitting the murder.
But this is a different situation, these people BUY the guns from the US and the vendor has NO idea it is for the use of hurting someone.

And if a canadian obtains a gun and shoots someone you'd have to question his "sanity" like you said. What SANE person (as you put it) is tempted to kill someone? By your definition I'd take Canadians as psychopaths.

[CrAz3D]

Let me rephrase...

I legally sell a dude I don't know a gun (we're both of age & go through all w/e laws).  He sells it to you, you kill your mom, my fault?

I legally sell YOU a gun, you kill your mom, my fault?

Nay

[topaz]

...You sell guns for a living. That doesn't mean you kill people; you just provide the means for doing so. If the person goes looking for you to specifically buy guns from you, that person is going to end up with a gun whether or not you sell it to him. Blame the canadians for being gun-hungry, not the Americans for selling it to them.

[Warrior]

Let me rephrase...

I legally sell a dude I don't know a gun (we're both of age & go through all w/e laws).  He sells it to you, you kill your mom, my fault?

I legally sell YOU a gun, you kill your mom, my fault?

Nay

I was making a point: If you sell a gun TO KILL someone PURPOSELY it's your fault
If you sell a gun at say a store which could be used for things like hunting and protection you can't expect him to get blamed for that.

People kill People so unless we throw guns at thier doorsteps and say here go kill a canadian, it isn't our fault.

[Adron]

I legally sell YOU a gun, you kill your mom, my fault?

Blame the laws that let you sell the gun legally

[CrAz3D]

Let me rephrase...

I legally sell a dude I don't know a gun (we're both of age & go through all w/e laws).  He sells it to you, you kill your mom, my fault?

I legally sell YOU a gun, you kill your mom, my fault?

Nay

I was making a point: If you sell a gun TO KILL someone PURPOSELY it's your fault
If you sell a gun at say a store which could be used for things like hunting and protection you can't expect him to get blamed for that.

People kill People so unless we throw guns at thier doorsteps and say here go kill a canadian, it isn't our fault.

How do you sell a gun to kill someone?

[Invert]

I legally sell YOU a gun, you kill your mom, my fault?

Blame the laws that let you sell the gun legally

Guns don't kill people, people kill people. With all my extensive experience (Being an Infantry man in the Army) with guns I have never seen a gun shoot something without a person using it to shoot something.

You might say that if we did not have guns people would not be able to use them to shoot, well that would not be very liberal of you. I will tell you that if we did not have the shooter the gun would not be shot.

Liberalism is a big contradiction in itself. A liberal want to take my freedom away of owning a gun a right that is given to me by the constitution and wants the government to enforce this! Last time I checked the ideals of liberalism are to give me more freedoms and keep the government out of my life. This is why liberalism is such a big joke to those who have their eyes open.

Now a day's people turned what good ideals liberalism had to offer into anti-men, anti-military, anti-culture, anti-language, anti-boarders, anti-religion and anti-heterosexual.

Why the fuck do I need to search for English on my damn voting ballot?! Why the fuck do I need to press "2" for English!?

This makes me sick!

[WoOdTroll]

Blame the laws that let you sell the gun legally

Law is corrupt. I think its pretty obvious when some one sues you after trying to enter your house from a roof window,  fall through, and cut himself by one of your kitchen knives. Or how about the person is tress passing on your territory, and you have dogs, he gets bitten, and sues you for that.

Lame bullshit. Money is power 

[Explicit]

Law is corrupt. I think its pretty obvious when some one sues you after trying to enter your house from a roof window,  fall through, and cut himself by one of your kitchen knives.

Wasn't that described in a scene from Liar Liar with Jim Carrey and his secretary?  I didn't know it actually happened, so can you find me the article?

[Arta]

Liberalism is a big contradiction in itself. A liberal want to take my freedom away of owning a gun a right that is given to me by the constitution and wants the government to enforce this! Last time I checked the ideals of liberalism are to give me more freedoms and keep the government out of my life. This is why liberalism is such a big joke to those who have their eyes open.

Do you even know any liberals, or are you just spouting this nonsense parrot-fasion? Have you ever seen me indicate that that's what I think? I don't know what you understand by the term "liberalism", but it's clearly not the same as my impression.

These constant rants against the liberal ideal are getting pretty boring, especially since they're so uninformed.

[Adron]

I want my own nuclear missile. So did Saddam Hussein. And surely so does Afghanistan, Iran, the Palestinians and everyone else. Start handing out! There is nothing wrong with nukes, they do not fire themselves!

[CrAz3D]

Liberalism is a big contradiction in itself. A liberal want to take my freedom away of owning a gun a right that is given to me by the constitution and wants the government to enforce this! Last time I checked the ideals of liberalism are to give me more freedoms and keep the government out of my life. This is why liberalism is such a big joke to those who have their eyes open.

Do you even know any liberals, or are you just spouting this nonsense parrot-fasion? Have you ever seen me indicate that that's what I think? I don't know what you understand by the term "liberalism", but it's clearly not the same as my impression.

These constant rants against the liberal ideal are getting pretty boring, especially since they're so uninformed.

He lives in San Francisco as I recall...

[Grok]

These constant rants against the liberal ideal are getting pretty boring, especially since they're so uninformed.

What is the liberal ideal as you would define it?