Man denied law license in AZ

[Explicit]

From what I read it didnt sound like he acknowledged that he did anything wrong, he just meant to rob them.

The article didn't delve into that aspect of his character.  Who's to say that he did or didn't acknowledge it?

[CrAz3D]

From what I read it didnt sound like he acknowledged that he did anything wrong, he just meant to rob them.

The article didn't delve into that aspect of his character.  Who's to say that he did or didn't acknowledge it?

"and his failure to own up to his past."
Another quote...
"Chief Justice Ruth McGregor said the court has no rule automatically barring someone with Hamm's past from practicing law, but "an applicant with such a background must make an extraordinary showing of rehabilitation and present good moral character."

Among other things, the court said Hamm failed to take full responsibility for the murders. The justices cited Hamm's claim that he intended only to rob the men -- a statement the court said was inconsistent with the facts."

[Explicit]

In a sense, he is owning up when he said that this was going to "atone for the lives I took."

"Hamm, initially charged with two counts of murder, pleaded guilty to one and was sentenced to life in prison."

[Grok]

Last I checked, pleading guilty and serving 17 years was taking responsibility.

[Arta]

His intentions, the 'facts', the trial, are all irrelevant: his sentence should be the end of it. Insofar as the state is concerned, the consequenses of his crime should have ended at the end of his sentence. If not, then your justice system is broken.

[CrAz3D]

His intentions, the 'facts', the trial, are all irrelevant: his sentence should be the end of it. Insofar as the state is concerned, the consequenses of his crime should have ended at the end of his sentence. If not, then your justice system is broken.

I believe that his sentence goes beyond just jail time.  That's the inital "don't do it again" thing, the part where he lives shunned by society because he is a murderer is the psychological part of the sentence so he REALLY feels bad about what he did

[Adron]

I believe that his sentence goes beyond just jail time.  That's the inital "don't do it again" thing, the part where he lives shunned by society because he is a murderer is the psychological part of the sentence so he REALLY feels bad about what he did

Hold a sec. Do you want him to keep murdering people as a full-time murderer or do you want him to get a productive regular job?

[CrAz3D]

He is a murderer, you can't change that fact.  I didn't say he should continue

[Adron]

He is a murderer, you can't change that fact.  I didn't say he should continue

A murderer is someone who murders. Do you want him to keep murdering or do you want him to get a regular job?

[Joe[x86]]

Although having a job doesn't directly exclude killing again, he should be allowed a job.

Being allowed a job as a lawyer is another thing. If he has taken full responsibility and written letters of apology to all family members, he should have an equal chance at becoming a lawyer as others. From what CrAz3D has said (I didn't read the article), he hasn't met with that, and shouldn't.

[Adron]

If he has taken full responsibility

Better to be honest than to take responsibility for things you should not. One of the main issues supposedly is that he says he only intended to rob the victims, and the court does not believe him. Who are they to know his intentions?

[CrAz3D]

If he didn't mean to kill them why did he?  There wasn't someone there "holding his hand" through the murders so to speak.  He pulled the trigger.  He killed the men.

[iago]

If he didn't mean to kill them why did he?  There wasn't someone there "holding his hand" through the murders so to speak.  He pulled the trigger.  He killed the men.

You are avoiding the key question, over and over again.  Please answer:

A murderer is someone who murders. Do you want him to keep murdering[...]?

before continuing, please. 

[Explicit]

I wonder where the accomplices of this man are.

[Adron]

If he didn't mean to kill them why did he?  There wasn't someone there "holding his hand" through the murders so to speak.  He pulled the trigger.  He killed the men.

Shit happens.