Compulsary Voting

[Grok]

Would you support compulsary voting (and a national or state voting holiday) to get people to the ballot box?

They would only be required to have their ballot punched, not forced to make any choices.  A ballot would only count where entries were made, empty ballots would count nothing, and ballots with some answers and not others would only count on those issues filled out.

As pointed out in other threads, the only people setting agenda (supposedly) are those that vote.  With such high apathy, government is not necessarily doing the will of the people.  At least by forcing them to turn in a ballot a few people might take an interest in what's written on it.

[Stealth]

Would you support compulsary voting (and a national or state voting holiday) to get people to the ballot box?

They would only be required to have their ballot punched, not forced to make any choices.  A ballot would only count where entries were made, empty ballots would count nothing, and ballots with some answers and not others would only count on those issues filled out.

As pointed out in other threads, the only people setting agenda (supposedly) are those that vote.  With such high apathy, government is not necessarily doing the will of the people.  At least by forcing them to turn in a ballot a few people might take an interest in what's written on it.

I think I would support this, if it were coupled with significant extra security measures at the ballot box. As it is, in the state of Wisconsin, you don't even need to present a photo ID to vote -- your name just has to be on the voter registration rolls. You give your name, and if it's there, you get to vote. There is nothing stopping someone from looking through a phone book and finding someone's name and address then voting for them.

It's ludicrous. State Republicans have tried to bring about legislation requiring photo IDs at least at the polls but the Democratic governor has vetoed it every time, saying it would 'disenfranchise' voters who did not have photo IDs.

If you don't have a driver's license, passport, or school ID card a state-issued photo ID is available for something like $10. I'm absolutely positive that countless interest groups would subsidize this cost for people who could not afford it.

[CrAz3D]

By forcing them to vote they may learn more, or they wont vote & itll cause bigger buearacracy to get them to vote

[dxoigmn]

I think I would support this, if it were coupled with significant extra security measures at the ballot box. As it is, in the state of Wisconsin, you don't even need to present a photo ID to vote -- your name just has to be on the voter registration rolls. You give your name, and if it's there, you get to vote. There is nothing stopping someone from looking through a phone book and finding someone's name and address then voting for them.

It's ludicrous. State Republicans have tried to bring about legislation requiring photo IDs at least at the polls but the Democratic governor has vetoed it every time, saying it would 'disenfranchise' voters who did not have photo IDs.

If you don't have a driver's license, passport, or school ID card a state-issued photo ID is available for something like $10. I'm absolutely positive that countless interest groups would subsidize this cost for people who could not afford it.

I don't like be treated like a criminal or thought of as a criminal. If I say who I say I am at the polling place, then that is who I am. You don't need to check my id unless you think I'm doing something wrong. Besides, it is not too hard to forge ids either.

By forcing them to vote they may learn more, or they wont vote & itll cause bigger buearacracy to get them to vote

How does forcing them to vote make them learn more. Logically, that does not follow.

[CrAz3D]

They might pay attention a bit more to the ads being run. 

[Invert]

Would you support compulsary voting (and a national or state voting holiday) to get people to the ballot box?

They would only be required to have their ballot punched, not forced to make any choices.  A ballot would only count where entries were made, empty ballots would count nothing, and ballots with some answers and not others would only count on those issues filled out.

As pointed out in other threads, the only people setting agenda (supposedly) are those that vote.  With such high apathy, government is not necessarily doing the will of the people.  At least by forcing them to turn in a ballot a few people might take an interest in what's written on it.

I would support this 100%

[dxoigmn]

They might pay attention a bit more to the ads being run. 

Oh, so listening to propoghanda (that is all those ads are) will teach you more. Interesting. I seriously hope you do not vote based on the ads on television.

[Invert]

I think I would support this, if it were coupled with significant extra security measures at the ballot box. As it is, in the state of Wisconsin, you don't even need to present a photo ID to vote -- your name just has to be on the voter registration rolls. You give your name, and if it's there, you get to vote. There is nothing stopping someone from looking through a phone book and finding someone's name and address then voting for them.

It's ludicrous. State Republicans have tried to bring about legislation requiring photo IDs at least at the polls but the Democratic governor has vetoed it every time, saying it would 'disenfranchise' voters who did not have photo IDs.

If you don't have a driver's license, passport, or school ID card a state-issued photo ID is available for something like $10. I'm absolutely positive that countless interest groups would subsidize this cost for people who could not afford it.

I don't like be treated like a criminal or thought of as a criminal. If I say who I say I am at the polling place, then that is who I am. You don't need to check my id unless you think I'm doing something wrong. Besides, it is not too hard to forge ids either.

By forcing them to vote they may learn more, or they wont vote & itll cause bigger buearacracy to get them to vote

How does forcing them to vote make them learn more. Logically, that does not follow.

Good thinking! We will have more dead people that had passed away a long time ago voting in Florida. The democrats love old people so much where they force them to vote for them so when the die they still continue to vote for them.

[Adron]

I don't like be treated like a criminal or thought of as a criminal. If I say who I say I am at the polling place, then that is who I am. You don't need to check my id unless you think I'm doing something wrong. Besides, it is not too hard to forge ids either.

Well, let's say I show up before you, give your name, and vote. Now what should happen when you come in?

[dxoigmn]

Well, let's say I show up before you, give your name, and vote. Now what should happen when you come in?

I should be given a provisional ballot (like I was a few days ago), be able to vote, and it noted that voter fraud may have occured. Then the matter will be investigated.

[Invert]

Well, let's say I show up before you, give your name, and vote. Now what should happen when you come in?

I should be given a provisional ballot (like I was a few days ago), be able to vote, and it noted that voter fraud may have occured. Then the matter will be investigated.

Just because you refuse to show your I.D. you will cost the government money with this investigation. Good liberal thinking!

[Adron]

I should be given a provisional ballot (like I was a few days ago), be able to vote, and it noted that voter fraud may have occured. Then the matter will be investigated.

And how could the matter be investigated? Should pictures be taken of all who vote, together with notes of what names they claimed?

[dxoigmn]

And how could the matter be investigated? Should pictures be taken of all who vote, together with notes of what names they claimed?

That's not for me to solve I don't even know how they solved my provisional ballot (I was sent an absentee ballot but never filled it out. I went to the polling place and they said I was sent one so they only let me vote provisionally until they could verify I did not vote twice. How that worked? I dunno.) A solution could be physically going to the residence and asking but I'm sure there are problems with that as well. It's a tricky issue that a lot of security people are thinking about. There is no golden solution but I think voting should be as accessible as possible to anyone who is qualified to vote.

[iago]

I think you'd end up with a lot more ignorant voters. 

I think we should go to the opposite solution.  Anybody who blindly votes for a particular party, just because they always have, shouldn't be allowed to vote.  You should have to defend your votes instead of just saying "republicans because I always vote republicans" :-)

[CrAz3D]

And how could the matter be investigated? Should pictures be taken of all who vote, together with notes of what names they claimed?

That's not for me to solve I don't even know how they solved my provisional ballot (I was sent an absentee ballot but never filled it out. I went to the polling place and they said I was sent one so they only let me vote provisionally until they could verify I did not vote twice. How that worked? I dunno.)

I'd think it'd be easy to verify that you didn't vote twice, any second grader can count to two.  2 ballots w/your name, hmm, you voted twice, hmm.