How does this happen?

[CrAz3D]

Who said he was in for weed?

[Grok]

You can defend anyone who has made a mistake and completed their punishment.

Unless maybe you are perfect and in a position to hate everyone who makes any mistake ever?

[CrAz3D]

The man beat his wife, what is to say he won't beat kids?  He has already blown his second chance by violating his parole

[Grok]

That's a slippery slope argument and invalid factually.

You cheated on your math exam in 9th grade, what's to say you won't cheat on everything else in life?  You should never be allowed to go to school again.

You were speeding going 41 in a 35 mph zone, putting all other drivers, personal property, city officials all in jeopardy.  What's to say you won't do it again?  You should never be trusted to drive.

You injured someone through negligence by driving while sleepy and spent 12 months in prison.  What's to say you won't do it again?  You should stay in jail the rest of your life.

You voted for someone for governor, he won, then proceeded to ruin the state's economy.  What's to say you won't vote for another sorry person?  You should never be allowed to vote again.

You laughed while drinking some milk and you spewed some out your nostrils.  No more milk for you, ever.

[Invert]

Most of the people and these forums are just like the liberal media, they like to spin things. The idiocy of some people astounds me.

The truth is this guy is a proven criminal!
This wife beating drug using criminal was elected to deal with matters related to children by liberal socialists that wanted to give him a second chance.

This is the #1 thing that is wrong with this country. We need to bring values back to our society. Stop the liberal socialism mind disease that is tearing this country apart.

Why don't we give Osama Bin Laden a second chance, maybe we should elect him next time for president? Or if someone molests or rapes your kid I want you think with an open mind and invite that person for dinner so you can work things out with him you liberal communist.

[Arta]

He's in prison. He's serving his time. You can't carry on punishing people forever, as Grok says, that's a slippery slope.

As for values, how about forgiveness? Rehabilitation? Empathy? Fairness? Equality?

I think your position on this matter is short-sighted, emotive, and skin-deep.

[Invert]

He's in prison. He's serving his time. You can't carry on punishing people forever, as Grok says, that's a slippery slope.

As for values, how about forgiveness? Rehabilitation? Empathy? Fairness? Equality?

I think your position on this matter is short-sighted, emotive, and skin-deep.

Those are all good value when applied right.
In your case you want to forgive Osama Bin Laden because you think over the years he has rehabilitated so we will show empathy towards him by understanding his situation and stance on things because it would only be fair since a shop lifter gets a second chance so to show equality we will forget about all his crimes against humanity.

Arta is a prime example of the flawed liberal/socialist thinking.
It's embarrassing. Good thing you are English and not American, we have plenty thinkers like you, we don't need more.

[CrAz3D]

I'd let him out, I just wouldnt trust my kid with the guy.  Although, since he wont be in contact with them (much) itd be better than him being a teacher

[dxoigmn]

Those are all good value when applied right.
In your case you want to forgive Osama Bin Laden because you think over the years he has rehabilitated so we will show empathy towards him by understanding his situation and stance on things because it would only be fair since a shop lifter gets a second chance so to show equality we will forget about all his crimes against humanity.

Arta is a prime example of the flawed liberal/socialist thinking.
It's embarrassing. Good thing you are English and not American, we have plenty thinkers like you, we don't need more.

We caught Osama? I didn't know he was serving him time. Is he getting out soon?

[Adron]

Well, wife-beating and child-beating is a typical conservative thing. Makes sense that he could get elected then?

Not where I'm from.  Conservative people are generally more family oriented.  The crazy liberals are the ones hopped up on coke beating everyone

Well, the people passing laws to forbid corporal punishment of children, wives and slaves have been liberals. The conservatives are typically for corporal punishment.

[Invert]

Those are all good value when applied right.
In your case you want to forgive Osama Bin Laden because you think over the years he has rehabilitated so we will show empathy towards him by understanding his situation and stance on things because it would only be fair since a shop lifter gets a second chance so to show equality we will forget about all his crimes against humanity.

Arta is a prime example of the flawed liberal/socialist thinking.
It's embarrassing. Good thing you are English and not American, we have plenty thinkers like you, we don't need more.

We caught Osama? I didn't know he was serving him time. Is he getting out soon?

We took all his finances away and he is living someplace in a dirt hole and being hunted like a deer so think open minded. Osama has been through so much stress isn't that punishing enough? We should give him a second chance. Don't you think so Mr. Liberal Communist? Poor Osama!

I have an idea! Let's put Osama on welfare since we took all his finances away.

[Arta]

Those are all good value when applied right.
In your case you want to forgive Osama Bin Laden because you think over the years he has rehabilitated so we will show empathy towards him by understanding his situation and stance on things because it would only be fair since a shop lifter gets a second chance so to show equality we will forget about all his crimes against humanity.

Arta is a prime example of the flawed liberal/socialist thinking.
It's embarrassing. Good thing you are English and not American, we have plenty thinkers like you, we don't need more.

Posts such as this are throughly tedious. Please behave like an adult.

I never mentioned Osama bin Laden. I didn't make this post in relation to war. I wasn't talking about people who have never been caught, tried, or punished for their crimes. I wasn't talking about bin Laden's position, stance, philosophy, actions, or anything else. You are putting lots of rather stupid words in my mouth, and then telling me my thinking is flawed. Isn't that a bit like pushing me over and then calling me clumsy?

I think people who have been caught, tried, punished, have served their punishment and then been released back into society, should have the same rights as everyone else.

If you wish to make an argument that my thinking is flawed, please make a substantive one. Don't just say it is, and expect it to be true. I am receptive to an argument that asserts that my thinking is flawed. I like it when people highlight mistakes in my logic, but only when they are logical themselves; otherwise, the exercise is meaningless. I happen to think that the liberal ideal is very sensible, and I won't accept that it's not just because you use the word derogatively.

[dxoigmn]

We took all his finances away and he is living someplace in a dirt hole and being hunted like a deer so think open minded. Osama has been through so much stress isn't that punishing enough? We should give him a second chance. Don't you think so Mr. Liberal Communist? Poor Osama!

I have an idea! Let's put Osama on welfare since we took all his finances away.

No because as I pointed out in another thread, that his freedom is what needs to be taken away. He hasn't done his time, plain and simple. Until then we can starting putting your plans into action. Maybe he'll even get welfare but I doubt he'll survive any sentence he will be serving.

[Invert]

Those are all good value when applied right.
In your case you want to forgive Osama Bin Laden because you think over the years he has rehabilitated so we will show empathy towards him by understanding his situation and stance on things because it would only be fair since a shop lifter gets a second chance so to show equality we will forget about all his crimes against humanity.

Arta is a prime example of the flawed liberal/socialist thinking.
It's embarrassing. Good thing you are English and not American, we have plenty thinkers like you, we don't need more.

Posts such as this are throughly tedious. Please behave like an adult.

I never mentioned Osama bin Laden. I didn't make this post in relation to war. I wasn't talking about people who have never been caught, tried, or punished for their crimes. I wasn't talking about bin Laden's position, stance, philosophy, actions, or anything else. You are putting lots of rather stupid words in my mouth, and then telling me my thinking is flawed. Isn't that a bit like pushing me over and then calling me clumsy?

I think people who have been caught, tried, punished, have served their punishment and then been released back into society, should have the same rights as everyone else.

If you wish to make an argument that my thinking is flawed, please make a substantive one. Don't just say it is, and expect it to be true. I am receptive to an argument that asserts that my thinking is flawed. I like it when people highlight mistakes in my logic, but only when they are logical themselves; otherwise, the exercise is meaningless. I happen to think that the liberal ideal is very sensible, and I won't accept that it's not just because you use the word derogatively.

I gave you an example of your logic applied to someone else. That showed that it was flawed. You just got all worked up after I proved to you that your logic is flawed.

[Invert]

We took all his finances away and he is living someplace in a dirt hole and being hunted like a deer so think open minded. Osama has been through so much stress isn't that punishing enough? We should give him a second chance. Don't you think so Mr. Liberal Communist? Poor Osama!

I have an idea! Let's put Osama on welfare since we took all his finances away.

No because as I pointed out in another thread, that his freedom is what needs to be taken away. He hasn't done his time, plain and simple. Until then we can starting putting your plans into action. Maybe he'll even get welfare but I doubt he'll survive any sentence he will be serving.

That's right! Double standard! What ever happened to equality?
This is good socialist thinking. Hail Hitler.