Visual basic lessons?

[Topaz]

Experimentation and practice. Having smart friends to ask questions doesn't hurt either

[Charlie]

Well... Sense everyone is going WEWhoo over tihs, any of you teach well? LOL. Guys are freaking out o_O;;

[Warrior]

Too much of a headache if you ask me when thoroughly reading documentation on the language will help you in the long run.

[Charlie]

Well ,see the problem is I don't learn from stareing at a book, I learn from someone telling me an example and I go try it out and do it. I duno, maybe it's just me; But I think I would learn better one on one.

[Yegg]

Experimentation and practice. Having smart friends to ask questions doesn't hurt either

How can "experimentation" possibly help?? If you don't know what else the function can do, what can you "experiment" with? Also, why would you want to be bothering your "smart friends" about something when you could simply have actually learned the language (since this is what we're discussing) or learned about the function (not what we're talking about in this case however) from a documentation?

[Charlie]

I don't know, Lol. All of the information I have read so far is just words on a Page I can't understand it. 

[Explicit]

When most beginners are just starting out (at least, those related to Battle.net), they have a tendency to speed-read through the content. Take your time on each section, and if you don't understand a word, then look it up. Practice is key!

[Charlie]

I know I'm comeing from Battle.net, but I'm serious I don't learn from reading, Okay for example. I read the words Tcp/ip. First thing that comes to mind is Okay that's networking. But then It' goes into all this mumbo jumbo on how it works, and I just want to know how I incorporate that into codeing. See<- I don't know if thats what I'm doing wrong? Or do I need to read it and understand it all before I start?

--Charlie 

[Explicit]

Take your time on each section, and if you don't understand a word, then look it up.

Try actually reading the post.  Anyway, it seems to me that this reading problem lies even outside of tutorials, and the only thing I can recommend is for you to stop being lazy and just read. Not the lazy kind of read, but the "I have to understand this" kind.

[Yegg]

I understand where Charlie is coming from though. And yes, there are some things that you won't understand... right away that is. Some things have to be re-read, possibly even multiple times to even have a general idea of its purpose. You may have to even try it out to help your understandance of it.

[Explicit]

I'm going to have to side with Warrior on this one, DeTaiLs. You can't fully understand a piece of code if you don't refer to a text for it. Functions for example, are in every source, but would you actually be able to determine what purpose they serve without referring to some documentation? Unless it's flat-out obvious, I'd think not.

Actually, you often can determine what purpose they serve. You may need some practise, but it is doable. That is the basis of reverse-engineering software.

This was aimed at the perspective of the inexperienced.

[Topaz]

There are many things that books don't teach, and thats where experimenting with objects and functions come into play.

[Yegg]

There are many things that books don't teach, and thats where experimenting with objects and functions come into play.

A book doesn't have to teach you "everything". And no one knows "everything". But by reading a book you can learn a lot more than if you relied on other code or "experimenting".

[MyndFyre]

Experimenting is a great supplement to online tutorials/lessons and books.

As I've said in the way I learned JavaScript, my first language, it was a series of not only trial and error, but also seeing what I had to work with and playing with it.

[Yegg]

Experimenting is a great supplement to online tutorials/lessons and books.

As I've said in the way I learned JavaScript, my first language, it was a series of not only trial and error, but also seeing what I had to work with and playing with it.

But the "trial and error" and "experimenting" that we're discussing is done without ANY aid from a documentation of some sort. The only experience you have is from other people's source codes.