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Random Drug Testing

Started by Mephisto, May 25, 2004, 01:36 PM

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Mephisto

Quote from: Forged on May 25, 2004, 03:20 PM
I am personally against random drugs test, and drug test in general.  I can understand a place of buisness doing a drugtest to see if a worker is comptent and reliable, but after that if they are doing a good job who cares if they are doing drugs?

As for the school scenario that is ridcoulous, unless it is a private school I consider a drug test a violation of my privacy, what buisness does the school have knowing what drugs I use.

Typically drug testing is done to athletes only.  I think it's a federal violation of public schools to drug test someone who is not taking part of a non-required public school function, such as sports.

hismajesty

I think it is as well Mephisto, unless you're in private school it's invasion of privacy. I could be wrong though... :-\

Falcon[anti-yL]

I don't go to a private school, maybe its different in different school districts?

hismajesty

Quote from: Falcon[anti-yL] on May 25, 2004, 03:45 PM
I don't go to a private school, maybe its different in different school districts?

I don't know. At first I thought your school system was violating your constituional right, however then I started to realize that the right to privacy may not be protected while in a Government building (school) since random searches are legal and such..for the safety of the whole.

Forged

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I think his doing drugs is not a direct threat to the school district unless he is intoxicated at that moment.  I assume if someone really felt like it the school district could get in trouble for it.

My school doesn't drug test our athletes because our coaches like to win :P

QuoteBecause drugs are illegal.

Your point?  The school is not my babysitter, it is not their job to see if I do drugs.
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Falcon[anti-yL]

My point is you can't get away with stuff just by saying "Its none of your business." And explain to me how people that do drugs perform better than people that don't in sports?

K

Quote from: Falcon[anti-yL] on May 25, 2004, 04:27 PM
My point is you can't get away with stuff just by saying "Its none of your business." And explain to me how people that do drugs perform better than people that don't in sports?

When they talk about drug testing in sports, they're not talking about recreational drugs; they're talking about various forms of steroids or performance enhancing stimulants, etc.

Mephisto

Quote from: K on May 25, 2004, 04:32 PM
Quote from: Falcon[anti-yL] on May 25, 2004, 04:27 PM
My point is you can't get away with stuff just by saying "Its none of your business." And explain to me how people that do drugs perform better than people that don't in sports?

When they talk about drug testing in sports, they're not talking about recreational drugs; they're talking about various forms of steroids or performance enhancing stimulants, etc.

In our school they kick people off of the teams or ban them from their current non-required activities if they test positive for any drugs such as marijuana...

Falcon[anti-yL]

Steroids are for lazy people that don't work out.

j0k3r

I was just thinking about this today.

I wouldn't bother doing the test, I'd go right ahead and tell them what they'd find. This recent weekend was a long weekend for canadians, and I did do some "naughty" things. Whenever I work out, I take a supplement (not a steroid, but whatever).

What I do on my own time and the choices I make are none of their concern. If I was so incapable of making decisions that the government had to make them for me, I would belong in a "special care" center.
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j0k3r

Quote from: Falcon[anti-yL] on May 25, 2004, 04:44 PM
Steroids are for lazy people that don't work out.
Yeah, cause popping steroids and then watching TV is going to make you huge.
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Forged

QuoteAnd explain to me how people that do drugs perform better than people that don't in sports?
I never said it did, but that doesn''t mean that altheletes don't do drugs...

QuoteSteroids are for lazy people that don't work out.

You obviouslly have no concept of how they work...
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Hazard

Forged, if you want to beef up all you have to do is buckle down and work hard. Steroids are for pussies.

The fact is if you have nothing to hide, you have no real reason to object.

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Newby

Sort of what Hazard said.

They should be required, I mean if you aren't a drug user, there's nothing to worry about. It's fun to get out of class for 10-15 minutes and have to piss in a cup. :)
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Quote from: Newby[yL] on May 25, 2004, 08:56 PM
Sort of what Hazard said.

They should be required, I mean if you aren't a drug user, there's nothing to worry about. It's fun to get out of class for 10-15 minutes and have to piss in a cup. :)
It shouldn't take you 10-15 minutes to piss in a cup.

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