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Started by CrAz3D, April 20, 2006, 05:47 PM

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Grok

Quote from: CrAz3D on May 03, 2006, 07:37 PM
Amnesty is like a pardon.
Wikipedia on amnesty
Quoteand the 1986 amnesty of illegal aliens pursuant to the Immigration Reform and Control Act that year that legalized over 2,700,000 aliens who either were illegal aliens or didn't qualify for legitimate visas.
Amnesty was given to 2.7 million people in 1986, if we give it now the next time could be upwards of 20 or 30 million.

Look at one of the quotes, it says they want amnesty AND a chance to earn their citizenship.  To me that implies that amnesty would be them NOT earning their citzenship

Amnesty is not like a pardon, as the immigrants want it, they want a temporary exemption from prosecution.
A pardon is for someone already convicted.

It's a perfectly reasonable request.  Amnesty from prosecution (except for those with criminal records not related to illegal immigration), give them chance to earn citizenship, and if they don't success, deportation.  If they don't leave, charges and prosecution, followed by deportation with suspended jail sentences.   If they return, activate the prison sentence

But on the whole we really have a problem with immigration.  How many immigrants do we allow in a given year?  Clearly not enough.  We should greatly increase the immigration rate so that we have lower-wage workers available, enabling us to keep factories mills, and manufacturing from leaving the USA and heading to China.

MyndFyre

Quote from: Grok on May 04, 2006, 02:50 PM
It's a perfectly reasonable request.  [...]give them chance to earn citizenship

I disagree that giving them the chance to earn citizenship is a perfectly reasonable request.

I'm okay with offering temporary work visas and not prosecuting for the millions who are already here.  But for them to have the gall to think that they can break the law and get in ahead of the line of people who did respect the laws is repugnant.

That's why my plan does not involve mass deportations, but it also does not put guest workers on the path to citizenship.
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CrAz3D

A general pardon granted by a government, especially for political offenses.
[Amnesty (from the Greek amnestia, oblivion) is an act of justice by which the supreme power in a state restores those who may have been guilty of any offence against it to the position of innocent persons. It includes more than pardon, in as much as it obliterates all legal remembrance of the offence.
Some ILLEGAL immigrants want a free pass into America.  Some ILLEGAL immigrants are willing to earn their citizenship.  Close to all ILLEGAL immigrants will not just "go back", they are here and will not leave.

Did you ever think that if we didn't have to spend as much money suppoting illegal immigrants that maybe we would be able to allow more legal ones?  The financial burden of the illegals that don't pay taxes get picked up by everyone else.  If no illegals come in then we have more money plus our immigration numbers go down.  If no illegals come in then we can allow more legal immigration.

I think by greatly increasing the immigration numbers we'd put a larger burden on society.  Legal immigrants pay taxes and receive federal money when they can't/won't work.  If there are too many immigrants and not enough jobs then we have a larger welfare population.  Unless our unemployment rate is quite low (its decently low now, 4.5% I last saw) then we shouldn't be allowing many people to come in because there are those here that don't have work.
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