Man denied law license in AZ

[CrAz3D]

He was like 26 when he murdered two people.
Maybe he is just deceitful enough to get a job as a lawyer so he can find out the loops holes of the law & dupe people out of their money.

Lawyer or drugdealer?  Those are his only options? 

This is a great reason for not allowing any lawyers.  I think we should suspect everyone of being deceiptful enough to get a job as a lawyer so they can find out the loopholes and dupe people out of their money.

Because you have to get a job as a lawyer to learn the loopholes and you have to do both of those to dupe people out of their money.

You couldn't just study law and learn those things.

You know what I meant

[MyndFyre]

Felons are treated differently.  They may be rehabilitated, but they aren't "as good as" normal citizens.

To go along with this argument, what about the person who was murdered?

I like to think of punishments as adequate for the crime or wrongdoing (isn't this the theory behind capital punishment?)  If you've murdered someone, that someone can't ever hold a job.  That someone might have graduated law school but can no longer pass the bar.  That someone can never win the lottery.  That someone can never have a family.  Or what about a convicted rapist's victim(s)?  These are things that can never have restitution granted.  There isn't enough money in the world to offset the psychological damage caused by a rapist to his victim.  For rape, though, I tend to think prison punishment is appropriate, because that guy's new name is going to be Molly for the next several years.  Say hello to Bubba.

Obviously some of these punishments are extreme, and perhaps the bar would be something worthwhile to let a convicted criminal go to.  I think they should let him pass the bar and then flounder around trying to get a job.  What law firm wants to employ a convicted murderer with no law experience?

[iago]

What if the person they killed was going to kill or rape somebody?  That's more likely than becoming a lawyer or winning the lottery. 

What if the rape victim becomes pregnant, and the child is a genius that solves world hunger?  All because one guy raped her!

My point is, you can't argue based on "what if"'s.

[MyndFyre]

What if the person they killed was going to kill or rape somebody?  That's more likely than becoming a lawyer or winning the lottery. 

What if the rape victim becomes pregnant, and the child is a genius that solves world hunger?  All because one guy raped her!

No, but you can argue punishment based on what has happened.  But thanks for making an argument against abortion!

[iago]

No, but you can argue punishment based on what has happened.  But thanks for making an argument against abortion!

My arguments were mean to ridicule the idea, jerk (that's not ad hominim, by the way.. I'm just joking around)

There's no telling what the people who died were going to do, and whether or not they were going to make the world a better place.  Speculating about it serves no purpose in deciding the fate of the man. 

[CrAz3D]

So the man's past merits shouldn't be taken into consideration when applying for a job either?

[Explicit]

So the man's past merits shouldn't be taken into consideration when applying for a job either?

The fact that he did serve time for the crime he committed should at least bid him a second chance, rather than being shunned overall.