I have a page set up in frames... Only issues being, is that one frame is larger than the page itself, and I want the page to stretch to fit the frame... I've googled about, and asked friends, and no anwers.
Any help would be appreciated.
Don't use frames. Use tables or divs (divs suck, use tables).
I would, but my site is entirely HTML (because I'm a retarded dumbass and I only know HTML and some VB6), and I have to update news frequently, and there's a shitload of pages (It's a flash animation/game site). So frames make it easy for me to keep the site organized and shit. I had it in tables before, but every time I added a link to the navigation bar, I'd have to go through like 30 pages and add it which was a pain in the ass. Sooo, switched it to frames, which caused this issue, and that's about it.
Any other suggestions on how I can fix this? I tried putting the frames INTO a table so I could set the table height and shit, buuutttt that didn't work, the table just went over the frames.
Are you on Geocities or some retarded shit like that?
Nope, my friend is hosting me. Not some gay free host bs.
PS - Here's the source of my index.html page with the frames... It's not the cleanest, but I'm pretty sure you can get the idea...
<! #index.html >
<TITLE>151</TITLE>
<HTML>
<frameset cols="13%,*">
<frame name="frmLeftNull" src="null.html" noresize scrolling="auto" frameborder="no" bordercolor="#050000">
<frameset cols="84%,*">
<frameset rows="19%,*">
<frame name="frmBanner" src="banner.html" noresize scrolling="auto" frameborder="no" bordercolor="#050000">
<frameset cols="19%,*">
<frame name="frmNav" src="nav.html" noresize scrolling="auto" frameborder="no" bordercolor="#050000">
<frame name="frmMain" src="news.html" noresize scrolling="no" frameborder="no" bordercolor="#050000">
</frameset>
</frameset>
<frame name="frmRightNull" src="null2.html" noresize scrolling="auto" frameborder="no" bordercolor="#050000">
</frameset>
</frameset>
</HTML>
I don't want scrolling in my news section, nor in any other, I just left them in auto because the page isn't done yet... I just want it to expand the browser window so that the ENTIRE page is visible. (As of now, it only shows about half of frmMain's content, which is a problem.)
Tables and PHP (all you'll need is include() (http://php.net/include/)). Way easier.
All right, I'll give that a go. Thanks.
Quote from: rabbit on October 06, 2006, 05:54 AM
Don't use frames. Use tables or divs (divs suck, use tables).
*laugh* tables are trash, divs > tables.
I find div's more effecient because you can implement CSS into them. Thats how most of the CMS websites use their systems, unless it has a pre-defined Module code that does all the work for you.
CSS goes into anything. And of 3 large CMS I've written, I've always used table over div, and then span for specific bits.
Divs are meant for page layout, not tables. Instead of saying divs suck, Rabbit, you should probably look into how to write a website that follows semantics. Sure tables work, but they are not intended to create layouts, but display tabular data. http://www.cameronmoll.com/ has some great articles that may interest you.
I can create an XHTML page which is W3 compliance using tables and spans, and no divs. So what's the problem?
Quote from: rabbit on November 05, 2006, 06:37 AM
I can create an XHTML page which is W3 compliance using tables and spans, and no divs. So what's the problem?
http://webdesign.about.com/od/layout/a/aa111102a.htm
http://www.phpfreaks.com/forums/index.php/topic,86595.0.html
Overall, divs are much more flexible, and require less coding.
Your page may be valid, but it doesn't necessarily mean it fllows semantics.
Quote from: rabbit on November 01, 2006, 03:49 PM
CSS goes into anything. And of 3 large CMS I've written, I've always used table over div, and then span for specific bits.
No, CSS goes better into divs and gives you much more flexibility.
Quote from: rabbit on November 05, 2006, 06:37 AM
I can create an XHTML page which is W3 compliance using tables and spans, and no divs. So what's the problem?
Neat. I can create that exact XHTML valid page in ~70% less characters.
You do realize that your page would be composed of ~80% useless table code, ~10% other random code and ~10% content, which is
terrible for SEO (Search engine optimization). Your website traffic will decrease by
at least 50% by discouraging the crawlers with your messy useless code.
I think you should get out of the 90's web development world and update your coding methods.
Just so long as no one uses a damned "Wrapper" div on the global level - ill be happy. If you are trying to center content... style the HTML and BODY elements. kthx
Rabbit, you are wrong so stop giving people bad advice. Tables are meant for displaying tabular data and not for layout design.
Yeah I get made fun of quite often because I'm in the habit of writing html to pre-css standards :(
Use div's if you don't want to get ridiculed like me.
Quote from: Akamas on November 05, 2006, 01:04 PM
I think you should get out of the 90's web development world and update your coding methods.
HTML traditional was much easier, bitched a lot less, and did everything I ever wanted it to do. I still use it to this day when I write HTML.