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Started by NocBrute, December 03, 2004, 06:02 PM

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NocBrute

Making a new computer that would do very good with WoW and CSS , HL2 Etc games like those..

60.99$ + 5.00$ CD Drive
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=27-140-115&DEPA=1

62.00$ + 3.00$HDD 80GB Seagate
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=22-148-015&DEPA=1

65.00$ + 4.73  Memory Chipsets ( 2 of these will be purchased )
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=20-223-006&DEPA=1

88$ + 0.99$ Video Graphics Card Chipset DDR SubCompany ( ATI )
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=14-164-021&DEPA=1

I need a Mobo that is compatible with these parts.

Hitmen

Processors are generally useful. If you're not going to be buying a new one, what do you have now? It's hard to suggest a motherboard without knowing.

quasi-modo

You probably should put all of those parts on one wish list so it is easy to look at. Also, like hitmen said, what kind of processor are you going to want to have.
WAR EAGLE!
Quote(00:04:08) zdv17: yeah i quit doing that stuff cause it jacked up the power bill too much
(00:04:19) nick is a turtle: Right now im not paying the power bill though
(00:04:33) nick is a turtle: if i had to pay the electric bill
(00:04:47) nick is a turtle: id hibernate when i go to class
(00:04:57) nick is a turtle: or at least when i go to sleep
(00:08:50) zdv17: hibernating in class is cool.. esp. when you leave a drool puddle

NocBrute

Oh im sorry, i forgot to put in the processor lol silly me  :P
http://newegg.com/app/manufact.asp?catalog=343&DEPA=1
Anywhere b/w 2.8-3.4 will be great, but i think when you buy a mobo you get a processor with it no? or do you only get that on some? cause last time my bro made a comp he got his athlon/intel chipset inside his mobo with the mobo @ the time he bought it. It was the  ASUS "P4P800S-X" i848P Chipset Motherboard For Intel Socket 478
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=13-131-515&DEPA=0

Oh well will that work cause it has 1 AGP slot

*EDIT* no it wasnt that mobo but it was the same company that you got a intel chipset with it and it had 100/1gig lan

quasi-modo

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Quote from: NocBrute on December 04, 2004, 07:53 PM
Oh im sorry, i forgot to put in the processor lol silly me  :P
http://newegg.com/app/manufact.asp?catalog=343&DEPA=1
Anywhere b/w 2.8-3.4 will be great, but i think when you buy a mobo you get a processor with it no? or do you only get that on some?
None... unless you but a bare bone system which are usually a crappy motherboard bundled with a crappy processor. But just buying a motherboard != buying a processor too.
Quoteathlon/intel chipset inside his mobo with the mobo @ the time he bought it
Uhhh athalon intel chipset?. There is no such thing, amd makes athalon processors, into has nothing called athalon.
QuoteIt was the  ASUS "P4P800S-X" i848P Chipset Motherboard For Intel Socket 478
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=13-131-515&DEPA=0

Oh well will that work cause it has 1 AGP slot

*EDIT* no it wasnt that mobo but it was the same company that you got a intel chipset with it and it had 100/1gig lan
1 agp slot is standard. 1 agp slot does not make an agp slot work for you or not work for you.

Also, you did not list a processor. You listed the whole amd category... Pick out a specific one. The higher front side bus the better, The higher level 2 cache the better, and the high clock speed the better.

Would you like us to just pick out parts for you? Want to spend 500 bucks? I just made a wish list yesterday to prove that a decent pc can be made for 500 bucks, its a good machine:
http://secure.newegg.com/app/WishHistoryReview.asp?position=HISTORY&submit=VIEW&ID=1137734
WAR EAGLE!
Quote(00:04:08) zdv17: yeah i quit doing that stuff cause it jacked up the power bill too much
(00:04:19) nick is a turtle: Right now im not paying the power bill though
(00:04:33) nick is a turtle: if i had to pay the electric bill
(00:04:47) nick is a turtle: id hibernate when i go to class
(00:04:57) nick is a turtle: or at least when i go to sleep
(00:08:50) zdv17: hibernating in class is cool.. esp. when you leave a drool puddle

NocBrute

Ahh if you look at the first post, and look at the prices... together there about 280$.
Im willing to spend 600$, i will spend 150 on a processor ( 2.8-3.4 (intel) ) and about 100 on a mobo ( minimum? ) all i know is that i got like 300 more $ to spend and i think it will work i just need someone who can find me a mobo that is compatible with all these settings.

quasi-modo

#6
except you still never listed a particular processor. Intel will be more expencive, I am an intel man myself, but amd is going to be better if you want to save money. Because when a good amd proc costs 150, the intel equiv is going to cost 200.

Who is going to put this together / help you put this together? I am assuming (and I think safely) that this is the first pc you have built.

I am going to start listing some good newegg procs.
Intel:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=19-116-171&DEPA=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-185&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-184&depa=1
The processors I picked all have a 800mhz fsb -- therefore they have ht. Two require socket T. These are retail, no need to buy a heat sink fan, but I still suggest it.
Amd:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-506&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-507&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-377&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-103-391&depa=1
These processors are all barton which means they have 512k l2 cache, for the non retail ones you will need to buy a heat sink fan. All of these have a 333 of 400 fsb.
WAR EAGLE!
Quote(00:04:08) zdv17: yeah i quit doing that stuff cause it jacked up the power bill too much
(00:04:19) nick is a turtle: Right now im not paying the power bill though
(00:04:33) nick is a turtle: if i had to pay the electric bill
(00:04:47) nick is a turtle: id hibernate when i go to class
(00:04:57) nick is a turtle: or at least when i go to sleep
(00:08:50) zdv17: hibernating in class is cool.. esp. when you leave a drool puddle

NocBrute

Ill go with the 3200 amd athlon.. hopefully its the best or good. whats mixumum athlon number? ( 2400,2500,2600,2700,2800,2900,3000,3100,3200 amx athlon )

http://www.newegg.com/app/SearchProductResult.asp?Submit=Go&DEPA=9

Pick a haet sink fan any fan. :P

Ah that mobo does work with all the products right? ( hdd,cddrive,vidcard,etc )

NicoQwertyu

#8
I personally love this heatsink.  I think it does it's job very well.  :)

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-010&depa=9

[Edit]

I'm using one of these case fans.  It pushes air quite nicely, but it might be a little louder than what you want.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-044&depa=1

I'm using two of these case fans in my other computer.  They're nice, and if you're looking for the "pretty" LEDs on them, these are for you.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=11-999-051&depa=1

SNiFFeR

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=35-106-031&DEPA=9
I've got that, but I wouldn't recommend it if you like to keep your computer on all the time, I can hear it in my next room.

MrRaza

Im trying to find the best power supply that I need for my system, I've chosen out most of the other computer parts that I need, most of them are of high-end quality. So I need a power supply that can put out the needed power while not causing damage.

I've found some power supplies at newegg.com but would like some advice on which model to purchase, I have an unlimited spending amount really.

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=17-148-001&DEPA=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=17-182-002&DEPA=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=17-161-002&DEPA=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=17-148-012&DEPA=0

quasi-modo

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-150-010&depa=9
The problem with this heat sink is that it is aluminum. I personally would pick somthing copper. I have a thing for the thermaltake spark and volcano lines.

http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=35-106-031-02.JPG/35-106-031-04.JPG
I would reccomend that volcane that sniffer said he does not like. Here is why, it comes with a speed adjuster, and also one thing is many motherboards have almost a themrastat type of system to control fan rpms, if your system is idle the fan speed will drop. For example, this motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=13-130-474&depa=0 (the one I picked for that sample pc, and would also be a good affordable pick for your motherboard, it is compadable) has something called the core cell. This allows a motherboard moniter to allow you to control things like fan speeds, or even overclock your system from windows. Though I do not own an amd so cannot comment on weather or not you should ever try that. I have heard both good and bad stories about amd overclocking.
WAR EAGLE!
Quote(00:04:08) zdv17: yeah i quit doing that stuff cause it jacked up the power bill too much
(00:04:19) nick is a turtle: Right now im not paying the power bill though
(00:04:33) nick is a turtle: if i had to pay the electric bill
(00:04:47) nick is a turtle: id hibernate when i go to class
(00:04:57) nick is a turtle: or at least when i go to sleep
(00:08:50) zdv17: hibernating in class is cool.. esp. when you leave a drool puddle

SNiFFeR

Yeah, the speed drop is the only advantage but it does not keep the processor cool enough. My AMD 2800+ is usually up to about 44 degrees C. And I can't sleep at night if the computer is on.

quasi-modo

Oh... My fan is loud too, but when my pc is idle the fan speed drops so that was never an Issue to me. But I still suggest a copper heat sink fan just because copper does transfer heat better than aluminum.
WAR EAGLE!
Quote(00:04:08) zdv17: yeah i quit doing that stuff cause it jacked up the power bill too much
(00:04:19) nick is a turtle: Right now im not paying the power bill though
(00:04:33) nick is a turtle: if i had to pay the electric bill
(00:04:47) nick is a turtle: id hibernate when i go to class
(00:04:57) nick is a turtle: or at least when i go to sleep
(00:08:50) zdv17: hibernating in class is cool.. esp. when you leave a drool puddle

Zakath

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=35-106-035&depa=9

That's the fan I have. Quite loud at high speeds, but frankly, I've gotten so used to it I don't even notice it anymore. When I sleep in a room *without* my computer on, it seems abnormally quiet and I have trouble going to sleep!

It does also have the automatic speed adjuster, though I don't use it.
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Opensource projects...would be dumb.