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Re: Stop releasing sources dammit!

Started by MiCrOz, January 10, 2003, 06:37 PM

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MiCrOz

Actually, releasing sources is a very good way for people to see how a bot is made and to learn off it. It's the people who abuse this freedom and copy these codes that make open source codes bad...

tA-Kane

#1
Quotethey'll do it themselves.

that's only if they're intelligent enough

And I agree that releasing source code does more damage than good.
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#2
I agree in principle. It would certainly eliminate those that use form1.caption = "my ace bot" then claim they wrote it.

Working off source codes all the time will never help you learn. Reverse engineering someone elses code just doesn't help you in the long run.

I recently wrote a simple configuration maker for ZDS bots, something I wanted to help me organise things. Had I not bothered to read books, plan what exactly I wanted it to do (yep, even writing it all down with flow diagrams!) I would never have learn't what I did.

Sure, I've looked at people's sources before...even tinkered with them, but ultimately, the best way to learn is do it yourself.

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tA-Kane

#3
Quoteultimately, the best way to learn is do it yourself.

plain and simply.
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Grok

#4
St0rm, mine is Visual Bot Studio Enterprise.

Banana fanna fo fanna

#5
I actually started on a VB addin that was called Visual Bot Studio, but ditched it cause it was lame.

Only good sources are certain components and samples, such as a userdatabase. I don't think sources should compile as-is too; then people don't learn from it.

DeMoKiLL

#6
Bot makers should make little bugs only a decent botmaker could find out. Maybe this would stop newbs from putting there name on someone elses work.

Coltz

#7
Or, if it's such a big deal to them that ppl don't read or use their sources, then maybe they just shouldn't release their source files???  I don't see Skywing complaining that newbies are copying his sources... o yeah thats right, he didn't release them!

RhiNo

#8
I agree with coltz o yea good covor for ur name warz i dont think anyone noticed warz spelled backwords

Moonshine

#9
Btw, saying "Sources" and "Codes" is totally incorrect [when referring to source code], whoever is doing this, stop putting an 's' on the end of everything.  I believe Grok posted something about this a long time ago, I just thought the point should be brought up again.  I personally think it makes people look pretty silly, I dont know if anybody else cares though.

RhiNo

#10
moonshine if they are reffering to more then one then they are correct!

Yoni

#11
It's ok to say Sources and Codes when you program in Visual Basics. ;)

Zakath

#12
"src" plz kthx! ;)
Quote from: iago on February 02, 2005, 03:07 PM
Yes, you can't have everybody...contributing to the main source repository.  That would be stupid and create chaos.

Opensource projects...would be dumb.

zraw

#13
QuoteOnly good sources are certain components and samples, such as a userdatabase.

To you. What if somebody needs to see a sample of a bot connecting? A sample of adding items to a listview? Best/worste ways of doing things?

Even doing form.caption stuff is learning. Some people might even be stuck with compiler confusion. Those lines separating the different functions.. i mean damn, that could be confusing to somebody wondering how "open file as append" and crap is even code.

I highly doubt you know how other people prefer to learn. I know you're speaking from experience, but your experience to a beginner means nothing, if they don't even know what you're talking about.

Mesiah / haiseM

#14
thats about dumb, if somebody wanted to learn a language bad enough to look at others source to learn such simple things, they would take a trip to the library.
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