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What do you think of XP?

Started by Douglife, July 28, 2003, 01:57 PM

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Douglife

I have been using Windows XP Professional for about a year now, and i must say from a sort of "less than advanced user" standpoint, I like it. I like it for a few simple reasons.

1.) Its customizability.
Windows XP with some help from a few programs provided by http://www.stardock.net could easily make your desktop enjoyable.

2.) Nothing else.
I don't know about backdoors, or win files, or any of the ingredients that make Windows XP so easy to customize, but I sure do like being able to.

Let me know what you think guys, Im curious to know..

Skywing

It tries to hide stuff like NTFS permissions and makes you click 'yes I want to see the contents of C:\' if you go to C:\ the first time, which is a nuisance at best and a real annoyance usually.

Adron

There are lots of too user-friendly things to fix when you first get it. It can be made to work rather nicely given some time to set it up though.

iago

I've set it up enough times that I can go through all those disables pretty quickly :)
This'll make an interesting test for broken AV:
QuoteX5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*


Camel

Quote from: Skywing on July 28, 2003, 02:01 PM
It tries to hide stuff like NTFS permissions and makes you click 'yes I want to see the contents of C:\' if you go to C:\ the first time, which is a nuisance at best and a real annoyance usually.

IIRC, Windows ME and 2000 do the latter as well. Additionally, it hides file extentions by default. It even hides the Administrator account from the Welcome screen by default.

Adron

Yes, those also hid some useful things, but it keeps getting worse with every new Windows version. Also, Windows XP Home completely lacks the NTFS security tab. You can set acls with cacls or other tools, but not with the built-in Explorer UI.

Skywing

Quote from: Adron on July 28, 2003, 04:11 PM
Yes, those also hid some useful things, but it keeps getting worse with every new Windows version. Also, Windows XP Home completely lacks the NTFS security tab. You can set acls with cacls or other tools, but not with the built-in Explorer UI.
Windows Server 2003 completely reverses this trend.  It doesn't hide any directories or permissions tabs by default (even %SystemRoot%\System32).

Camel

Quote from: Skywing on July 28, 2003, 11:58 PMWindows Server 2003 completely reverses this trend.  It doesn't hide any directories or permissions tabs by default (even %SystemRoot%\System32).

I dont think any Windows Sever editions have ever done this, no?

Skywing

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Quote from: Camel on July 29, 2003, 01:49 AM
Quote from: Skywing on July 28, 2003, 11:58 PMWindows Server 2003 completely reverses this trend.  It doesn't hide any directories or permissions tabs by default (even %SystemRoot%\System32).

I dont think any Windows Sever editions have ever done this, no?
Windows 2000 Server and Windows 2000 Advanced Server did.

WinSocks

yeah Windows 2000 advanced Server does, i use it and it much better than my old OS which made me go insaine....... WinME >.<

CaBAM

Which Windows XP? XP Home or Professional?

Yoni

Windows XP Home does not deserve to exist.

Windows XP Pro is the same as Windows 2000 Pro, with lots of aesthetic changes (improvements?) and a lot of newbie-friendly crap (too newbie-friendly to sanely use it, IMO).

My equation has proven to be true so far: WinXP = Win2K + crap.

Camel

#12
Remote desktop doesn't fall under crap, Yoni!
The crappy firewall, however, does.

[edit] +1 to Yoni for having exactly 888 posts. :)

Adron

XP has some nice low level changes from Win2k. Including the ability to run windbg over 1394.

Yoni

I don't even have FireWire... There aren't any improvements in XP that I know of which I personally care about.

Either case, I run 2003 now, which includes all these changes anyway.