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Started by Invert, September 04, 2008, 02:18 AM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGmO7Oximw8

I am planning on checking it out soon. Right now I have been busy and sort of happy with Firefox but I will check into Google Chrome very soon.
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iago

Quote from: brew on September 05, 2008, 10:57 AM
But it IS open source. Who's to say somebody won't start a splinter project and give the people what they want? Then I'm sure google would get their ass in gear :p
Be careful -- it depends on the license.

(I think I read that Chrome is the BSD license, which is ok, but in general it's not always the case)
This'll make an interesting test for broken AV:
QuoteX5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*


iago

Much more interesting: stack overflow on the "save as" box. Proof of concept here:
http://security.bkis.vn/Proof-Of-Concept/PoC-XPSP2.html
This'll make an interesting test for broken AV:
QuoteX5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!$H+H*


brew

Quote from: iago on September 05, 2008, 04:44 PM
Much more interesting: stack overflow on the "save as" box. Proof of concept here:
http://security.bkis.vn/Proof-Of-Concept/PoC-XPSP2.html

Haha, wait, wasn't security one of Chrome's biggest selling points?
And does google have a scheme to automatically update their browser yet?
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Yegg

Quote from: brew on September 05, 2008, 05:35 PM
Quote from: iago on September 05, 2008, 04:44 PM
Much more interesting: stack overflow on the "save as" box. Proof of concept here:
http://security.bkis.vn/Proof-Of-Concept/PoC-XPSP2.html

Haha, wait, wasn't security one of Chrome's biggest selling points?
And does google have a scheme to automatically update their browser yet?

It's in beta so it can still undergo drastic improvements/changes hopefully for the better. Beta typically means "not ready for practical use" so having an auto-update feature isn't really that important a feature right now.

brew

Quote from: Yegg on September 05, 2008, 10:17 PM
It's in beta so it can still undergo drastic improvements/changes hopefully for the better. Beta typically means "not ready for practical use" so having an auto-update feature isn't really that important a feature right now.
I was always under the impression that the term 'beta' anymore was just something labeled on a very finished product to produce more hype than it would without it.
In their comic strip, google brags about their testing method, where each of their millions of 'web crawlers' would automatically browse sites in order to more accurately reflect average usage. Obviously this approach doesn't fare very well against security holes exploited by such macilous sites as iago posted.
The bottom line is if they're to make it a browser that people would actually feel secure with, they had better get their act together and rethink their testing method. There is no reason why such a professionally made application should fall victim to something like a buffer overflow attack in this day and age. And if it's going to, they had better come prepared with an auto updater of sorts - I'm sure the millions of users won't want to keep checking google to see if a patch had been released for the newest exploit. Besides, it's better when everybody (or at the very least, almost everybody) is on the same page when it comes to software still in development, right? It makes for much more effective bug tracking if everybody's using the most recent version of the software.
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Yegg

Perhaps Google knows they released shit for now? I'd imagine there is a chance that by creating this hype their stock may even increase somewhat. IIRC, Apple's stock rose a nice amount when the iPhone 3g was released, despite slightly afterward many people claiming to be experiencing many issues with it (I'm not yet a victim of this, fortunately). I'm sure it will become far more advanced over time (hopefully, a short period of time). I'm not sure where it will rank against browsers such as Firefox, but no one has the right to say it doesn't at least have the potential to become the most advanced, secure browser to date. Firefox isn't even that old and become extremely popular and very advanced in quite a short period of time. Google Chrome may be the next best thing.

brew

That's just it! They want to be the next big thing! Only problem is, I'm not sure how they're going to revolutionize browsing. There is no need for Google Chrome. The world would be just as happy without it. They're trying to fix something that doesn't need fixing! This leads me to the belief that this probably is some huge publicity stunt. No publicity is bad publicity, after all. If they can make a big stink by making a half assed browser (which they have), then they've accomplished their mission. They're just being attention whores.
Not to mention the fact that just about every new 'feature' seen in Google Chrome has been in some other browser at one point or another. So revolutionary.
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Dale

Quote from: brew on September 06, 2008, 02:10 AM
That's just it! They want to be the next big thing! Only problem is, I'm not sure how they're going to revolutionize browsing. There is no need for Google Chrome. The world would be just as happy without it. They're trying to fix something that doesn't need fixing! This leads me to the belief that this probably is some huge publicity stunt. No publicity is bad publicity, after all. If they can make a big stink by making a half assed browser (which they have), then they've accomplished their mission. They're just being attention whores.
Not to mention the fact that just about every new 'feature' seen in Google Chrome has been in some other browser at one point or another. So revolutionary.

Are you telling me you've never created (shit), that's been previously improvised (shit) before?

I think Google wanted to see if they could pull it off, and how well they could. I'm sure they have more great ideas (which some I saw in Google Chrome) then other browsers.. It's not all about publicity.. It's probably about curiosity as well..

Yegg

Quote from: Dale on September 06, 2008, 03:28 PM
Quote from: brew on September 06, 2008, 02:10 AM
That's just it! They want to be the next big thing! Only problem is, I'm not sure how they're going to revolutionize browsing. There is no need for Google Chrome. The world would be just as happy without it. They're trying to fix something that doesn't need fixing! This leads me to the belief that this probably is some huge publicity stunt. No publicity is bad publicity, after all. If they can make a big stink by making a half assed browser (which they have), then they've accomplished their mission. They're just being attention whores.
Not to mention the fact that just about every new 'feature' seen in Google Chrome has been in some other browser at one point or another. So revolutionary.

Are you telling me you've never created (shit), that's been previously improvised (shit) before?

I think Google wanted to see if they could pull it off, and how well they could. I'm sure they have more great ideas (which some I saw in Google Chrome) then other browsers.. It's not all about publicity.. It's probably about curiosity as well..

I'm sure that wasn't the point brew was trying to make, though. Google made it seem as though Chrome was going to be this amazing software and would change the way we worked with the web. Not to say this won't happen, but from the looks of it this hasn't happened yet. They wouldn't have created this just out of curiosity knowing the claims they made. They believe this will ultimately be far better than all the other browsers in every aspect. That's their goal.

Dale

Quote from: Yegg on September 06, 2008, 04:04 PM
Quote from: Dale on September 06, 2008, 03:28 PM
Quote from: brew on September 06, 2008, 02:10 AM
That's just it! They want to be the next big thing! Only problem is, I'm not sure how they're going to revolutionize browsing. There is no need for Google Chrome. The world would be just as happy without it. They're trying to fix something that doesn't need fixing! This leads me to the belief that this probably is some huge publicity stunt. No publicity is bad publicity, after all. If they can make a big stink by making a half assed browser (which they have), then they've accomplished their mission. They're just being attention whores.
Not to mention the fact that just about every new 'feature' seen in Google Chrome has been in some other browser at one point or another. So revolutionary.

Are you telling me you've never created (shit), that's been previously improvised (shit) before?

I think Google wanted to see if they could pull it off, and how well they could. I'm sure they have more great ideas (which some I saw in Google Chrome) then other browsers.. It's not all about publicity.. It's probably about curiosity as well..

I'm sure that wasn't the point brew was trying to make, though. Google made it seem as though Chrome was going to be this amazing software and would change the way we worked with the web. Not to say this won't happen, but from the looks of it this hasn't happened yet. They wouldn't have created this just out of curiosity knowing the claims they made. They believe this will ultimately be far better than all the other browsers in every aspect. That's their goal.

I'm pretty sure you posted above that it's in it's beta stages, did you forget that now? Most beta software blows.

Yegg

Quote from: Dale on September 06, 2008, 04:09 PM
Quote from: Yegg on September 06, 2008, 04:04 PM
Quote from: Dale on September 06, 2008, 03:28 PM
Quote from: brew on September 06, 2008, 02:10 AM
That's just it! They want to be the next big thing! Only problem is, I'm not sure how they're going to revolutionize browsing. There is no need for Google Chrome. The world would be just as happy without it. They're trying to fix something that doesn't need fixing! This leads me to the belief that this probably is some huge publicity stunt. No publicity is bad publicity, after all. If they can make a big stink by making a half assed browser (which they have), then they've accomplished their mission. They're just being attention whores.
Not to mention the fact that just about every new 'feature' seen in Google Chrome has been in some other browser at one point or another. So revolutionary.

Are you telling me you've never created (shit), that's been previously improvised (shit) before?

I think Google wanted to see if they could pull it off, and how well they could. I'm sure they have more great ideas (which some I saw in Google Chrome) then other browsers.. It's not all about publicity.. It's probably about curiosity as well..

I'm sure that wasn't the point brew was trying to make, though. Google made it seem as though Chrome was going to be this amazing software and would change the way we worked with the web. Not to say this won't happen, but from the looks of it this hasn't happened yet. They wouldn't have created this just out of curiosity knowing the claims they made. They believe this will ultimately be far better than all the other browsers in every aspect. That's their goal.

I'm pretty sure you posted above that it's in it's beta stages, did you forget that now? Most beta software blows.

Are you simply oblivious to everything else mentioned so far? Yes, it's in beta. brew bashed their claims on revolutionizing the way we browse the web. He explained how their ideas were not new and pretty much sucked in general. Then you made your post which seemed to show how you missed what brew was saying. Of course Chrome may be somewhat shitty now due to being in beta stages, but brew is talking about the ideas behind it. The ideas themselves are what should be revolutionary, he claims they are not. So regardless how well Chrome works, the potential of the ideas should be what makes it amazing. He claims this is not so. Just because it's in beta, doesn't mean the ideas behind it shouldn't be good ideas.

Barabajagal

Beta simply means it's for public testing, but not yet a complete release, that's all. Don't try to assign any other definition to it. I wonder if this is going to strain the Firefox/Google team-up thing that's been going on.