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Service Packs

Started by Barabajagal, September 14, 2007, 09:11 PM

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Barabajagal

Just wondering what people think of the new Service Packs for Windows XP (SP3) and Vista (SP1). Vista's service pack will most likely be released by the end of the year, or the beginning of 08, and XP's most likely in the first half of 08 (after Vista's). I'm sort of wondering why they're itching to release a service pack to a new OS so soon... are there lots of problems they didn't tell anyone about? Or perhaps it's a financial move, trying to rack in more customers. In any case, I've changed my stance on getting Vista from "Wait for SP2" to "Wait for SP3", since SP1 is coming out way earlier than I anticipated.

Kp

The conspiracy theory explanation is that Vista SP1 is because of people who prefer never to install an RTM build, but instead wait for the first service pack.

The technical theory is that there are a lot of problems.  Although unfortunate, this is not entirely unforeseeable since this is Microsoft's first desktop OS release in 5-6 years, and they did make fairly substantial changes to some components (MIC, UIPI, UAC, and a new IPv4/IPv6 stack all come to mind).  Once the number of hotfixes exceeds a certain threshold, applying all the patches gets to be such a pain that people want a roll up patch.  Roll up patches sometimes take the form of service packs.
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Barabajagal

#2
XP SP2 already has like... 60 updates to it after a fresh install. What's vista at? Maybe 30? (Honestly, I don't know. I don't intend to touch Vista for 4 years or 3 service packs, whichever's last.)

warz

I have had no problems with an out of the box vista installation.

Newby

Me neither. I think the problems people describe are PICNICs since I can't re-create hardly any of them.
- Newby

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Quote<TehUser> Man, I can't get Xorg to work properly.  This sucks.
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Barabajagal

It's not just security, it's compatibility with hardware and applications. It's an issue of popularity and usage, and security becomes an issue because of popularity. If no worms or major viruses break out in the first year, it's pretty safe. Three years and it's a great OS.  Never, and it's Linux ;)

vuther.de

They need to add DX10 to XP.

Newby

#7
delete. not enough time to start arguing about compatibility issues with hardware and linux.
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Quote[17:32:45] * xar sets mode: -oooooooooo algorithm ban chris cipher newby stdio TehUser tnarongi|away vursed warz
[17:32:54] * xar sets mode: +o newby
[17:32:58] <xar> new rule
[17:33:02] <xar> me and newby rule all

Quote<TehUser> Man, I can't get Xorg to work properly.  This sucks.
<torque> you should probably kill yourself
<TehUser> I think I will.  Thanks, torque.

Barabajagal

My previous post was meant as a joke. Sorry if you misconstrued it.

Michael

any idea what will be in SP3 mainly? other then all the hotfixes? like any new/major changes?



Barabajagal