Latest Intel Processors Question

[Mephisto]

Can anyone update me on the new processors released from Intel and which are better by comparison to each other?  Specifically ones from this year, 2005.  For instance, the standard P4 3.2GHz w/ HT vs. Pentium D w/ Dual Core technology, etc.  I'd appreciate it; I'm planning to buy a new computer soon.

[Rule]

Are you set on buying Intel?  Why not consider AMD?

[Mephisto]

Are you set on buying Intel?  Why not consider AMD?

Planning to buy from Dell, but I am customizing a gaming PC from their Desktop selections.  I've also never used AMD, and from general reviews have concluded Intel > AMD, but I'd like to hear an argument pro-AMD though, so I can further consider my options.  I have heard though, that AMD is superior to Intel processors for gaming, while Intel is superior for office applications and general PC use.

Anyways, I'd like to hear some of the competing differences, but I'd also like for my question to be answered, so let's not get too far off-topic. 

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Argument-related: Live Stress Test Rundown: AMD vs. Intel @ THG

[Zakath]

Over the last couple years, AMD chips have become far cheaper and also the newer cores run cooler than comparable Intel chips (the reverse of the situation in years past).

There is absolutely no reason to conclude that one is better than the other. I have gone with AMD for the simple reason that I don't see the sense in spending a couple hundred extra dollars for the same performance.

[Hitmen]

There is absolutely no reason to conclude that one is better than the other. I have gone with AMD for the simple reason that I don't see the sense in spending a couple hundred extra dollars for the same performance.

Yes there is. High end AMD processors perform better (not always by much, but sometimes significantly), consuming less power, while giving off less heat, at a lower price than the high end intel processors, and this has been rather consistent for a little while now.

[Grok]

Newer from Tom's Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20051121/index.html

[Mephisto]

If I was going to buy my gaming system now I would have chosen the Intel Pentium Extreme Edition, but I am going to wait probably another year and just fancy up my current system a bit since I don't have the $6,000.00 to pay for a top-of-the-line system.  Also, with Windows Vista coming around the corner for next year, I'm sure there'll be some new hardware updates at the time & promotions.

[Meh]

I have gone with AMD as they are cheaper and manage the memory better than Intel.

[Hitmen]

If I was going to buy my gaming system now I would have chosen the Intel Pentium Extreme Edition

So you'd pay more for a processor that performs worse than the competition, and acts as a space heater?

[Hitmen]

As far as heat goes, I didn't know that Amd chips were running colder, AFAIK both procs have smilar temperatures at the moment, Intel is using higher clocks but they have always used a higher clock speed and have historically run colder so I do not think that is an affective argument. Has anyoneone seen an actual chart comparing temperatures?

http://techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/athlon64-x2/index.x?pg=15
I can't find any of the one's I've seen measuring heat directly, but at least in this universe, power consupmtion and heat correlate directly. All energy consumed by the processor is given off as heat.

And he was talking about the extreme edition, look at that baby burn.

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I like how my perfectly relevant post was removed. I think disgussing hte prices of dual cored processor and challenging previous statements is on topic, is it not?

[Adron]

I like how my perfectly relevant post was removed. I think disgussing hte prices of dual cored processor and challenging previous statements is on topic, is it not?

Who removed it? Looks like an interesting post from the quote...

[Hitmen]

I like how my perfectly relevant post was removed. I think disgussing hte prices of dual cored processor and challenging previous statements is on topic, is it not?

Who removed it? Looks like an interesting post from the quote...

I think it got removed because there were links in it that streched the tables.

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But the links didn't stretch the tables... atleast not for me, there was a horizontal scroll bar in the post and the whole post was visible without using it. Eh oh well. The point I made in it is pentium d is a whole heck of a lot cheaper than amdx2 and amd x2 is going to remain expencive as crap until the next amd socket comes out... at which point it will still be expencive as crap, but not as expencive as crap as before.