Starcraft 1.13D

[QwertyMonster]

I asked on Battle.net forums about ladder, and he said ladder is going to change, big time. Its on their list. He says winbot won't work. I told my friend this, and he said something about UDP. Any ideas on this?

[DeTaiLs]

Aren't all Blizzard games run on UDP besides diablo?

[Lead]

Blizzard is just trying to make Battle.net a better community by getting rid of hacking (sigh)
It will come to the point where Battle.net will be sending keep-alive packets that only the client will know how to respond to......so we are pretty fucked in the long run.

[Topaz]

I don't really see how Blizzard is going to care about Starcraft/D2. They've already generated tons of revenue, and they gain nothing by improving a free service.

[iago]

God I wish they would tell us what tehre really doing under the hood
But when has Blizzard ever done that?
~-~(HDX)~-~

There are plenty of binary-diff tools available.  Feel free to find out for us?

[UserLoser.]

Aren't all Blizzard games run on UDP besides diablo?

Diablo II/Warcraft III/WoW is 100% TCP.

Qwertymonster: As far as winbots, tell your friend they have nothing to do with the in-game protocol (which happens to use UDP) so they still should be ok as long as they don't change the Battle.net chat servers.

[dxoigmn]

Qwertymonster: As far as winbots, tell your friend they have nothing to do with the in-game protocol (which happens to use UDP) so they still should be ok as long as they don't change the Battle.net chat servers.

Speaking of modifications to BNCS, I can easily see Blizzard implementing Warden into Starcraft (if it is not already in there, I don't know) and requiring a response to a certain packet once you tell the server you're in a game. That's modification wouldn't be all that difficult either and would stop winbots, unless someone publically releases a method to emulate Warden.

[Blaze]

Couldn't you just hook the packet and modify it saying nothing bad is running?

[UserLoser.]

Couldn't you just hook the packet and modify it saying nothing bad is running?

Probably wouldn't work, considering the Warden client downloads a module from the server and executes what's in it.  Most likely there will be no static "success" value

[Lenny]

How often does the Warden client download this module?  I doubt battle.net will implement this type of system if there's a heavy bandwidth cost.

[UserLoser.]

How often does the Warden client download this module?  I doubt battle.net will implement this type of system if there's a heavy bandwidth cost.

Warden client has already been around in D2/W3 for a while now, afaik .  How do you think they caught people in the past, and still do today?

[QwertyMonster]

Lol thanks for that Info UserLoser. I will tell him.

And Warden.. doesn't that make everyone's game freeze? My friend said he was packetlogging d2 or something and found out that, that the day he packetlogged d2, Warden was turned off for the whole day. Ideas?

[UserLoser.]

Lol thanks for that Info UserLoser. I will tell him.

And Warden.. doesn't that make everyone's game freeze? My friend said he was packetlogging d2 or something and found out that, that the day he packetlogged d2, Warden was turned off for the whole day. Ideas?

Yes I have an idea, find new friends to get info from

[Ringo]

Lol thanks for that Info UserLoser. I will tell him.

And Warden.. doesn't that make everyone's game freeze? My friend said he was packetlogging d2 or something and found out that, that the day he packetlogged d2, Warden was turned off for the whole day. Ideas?

Has been turned off for the past 6 days now

[Doodle77]

God I wish they would tell us what tehre really doing under the hood
But when has Blizzard ever done that?
~-~(HDX)~-~

they did nothing but fix the infested terran bug for this patch i think. the other two were EUDS,EAS+ESS,and button action modifying. :/