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Hooray for literacy!

Hazard, you really should stop posting every time you give someone karma -- it's just a waste of space most of the time.

Why do people always get off topic and start talking about other stuff. The guy is trying to develop his bot and wants your suggestions to help the process. Instead you just trail off arguing with each other. Thats the only reason this thread should be trashed.

He got some advice.. basically, to write his own bot.

Arguing is so fun. Helping isn't nearly as fun

Quote from: Hazard on September 03, 2003, 10:20 AM

Quote from: iago on September 03, 2003, 10:11 AM
Reading that took a hell of a lot longer than it should have, had you spelled out full words.  Please do me a favour: if you want any respect at all, spell out your words.  Thanks!

+1 for clearly stating what needed to be said.

!~!HaZaRD!~!

You know, that's the problem with the majority of America's youth today, and something that really just pisses me off.  People don't take the time to learn how to speak correctly.  Nor do they take the time to learn how to spell, or write.  It drives me crazy.  English is NOT a difficult language, especially if you LIVE in the UNITED STATES!  

Good site:
http://www.angryflower.com/itsits.gif
http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif

And a good example of how NOT to speak:
http://www.engrish.com/

Quote from: Myndfyre on September 04, 2003, 09:15 PM
You know, that's the problem with the majority of America's youth today, and something that really just pisses me off.  People don't take the time to learn how to speak correctly.  Nor do they take the time to learn how to spell, or write.  It drives me crazy.  English is NOT a difficult language, especially if you LIVE in the UNITED STATES!  

Stolen from a site:

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American English has been rated the most difficult language to learn, even
more than Chinese:

I Love English!

The bandage was wound around the wound.

The farm was used to produce produce.

The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse.

He could lead if he would get the lead out.

The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert.

Since there is no time like the present, he decided it was time to
present the present.

A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum.

When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes.

I did not object to the object.

The insurance was invalid for the invalid.

There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.

They were too close to the door to close it.

The buck does funny things when the does are present.

To help with the planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.

The wind was too strong to wind the sail.

After a number of injections, my jaw got number.

Upon seeing a tear in the painting, I shed a tear.

I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.

Yes, English can be bewildering. If we explore its paradoxes, we find
that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square, and a guinea
pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig.

In what language do people recite at a play, and play at a recital?

How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, yet a wise man and a
wise guy are opposites?

Yes, in American English, your house can burn up as it burns down, you
fill out a form by filling it in, and an alarm goes off by going on.

That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible; when the lights
are out, they are invisible.

And, when I wind up my watch, I start it, but when I wind up this essay,
I end it.

I love English.

To *Learn*.  Growing up with English all around, in the total immersian environment, in the UNITED STATES, American teens have no excuse at all (except, perhaps, dyslexia) for not being able to spell or write a coherent sentence.  The distinction between "it's" and "its" is very easy to make (contraction versus possesion, respectively), as is "to," "two," and "too."  When I'm reading, and I come across a word such as "read," it may take me, at most, two times to determine if it should be pronounced as "reed" or "red," depending on verb tense or if the word is an adjective or a verb.

I don't sit back and expect that everybody know every part of speech.  However, is it too much to ask that people know the difference between "to," "too," and "two;" that "they're" means something completely different than "their;" or that several words can be spelled the same but sound differently?

I'm 19.  I only had to read the lines below once to understand them and be able to say them correctly, with the exception of one:

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After a number of injections, my jaw got number.

Of course, that statement could be questioned; "number" meaning "more numb" is not something typically used.  "More numb" would be a more acceptable construction to express that statement.  =)

But I digress.  The point is, the majority of people in the United States are uneducated morons, and I resent that I end up getting grouped into the same moronic society that the rest of the world disdains.

It doesn't take a whole lot of effort in America to learn how to speak.  It bothers me that people are too complacent now to put any effort into anything....

This has just turned into my philosophical ramblings of my disgust of the state of education in America....  *sigh*

Inability and lack of desire are very seperate things.

I wrote much better English when I first got here

It's about time you all learn't the Queen's English.
Proper British stuff.

Quote from: Eternal on September 05, 2003, 10:03 AM
It's about time you all learn't the Queen's English.
Proper British stuff.

British bad!

Quote from: Myndfyre on September 05, 2003, 01:28 AM

QuoteAfter a number of injections, my jaw got number.

Of course, that statement could be questioned; "number" meaning "more numb" is not something typically used.  "More numb" would be a more acceptable construction to express that statement.  =)

No, 'number' in that context is just flat out wrong. The reason it is unacceptable is because of the homynim -- how is one to know if he actually means 'number' if the correct meaning is said to be 'more numb?'

To be safe, the general rule to go by is don't use "word+er" unless "more word" sounds fucked up.

[edit] Additionally, anybody who can identify the difference between a verb and a noun can decipher most of those sentances. I'm not interested in proving my point enough to actually seperate them to see how many sill remain, but I doubt it is very many.

Quote from: Camel on September 05, 2003, 05:59 PM
No, 'number' in that context is just flat out wrong. The reason it is unacceptable is because of the homynim -- how is one to know if he actually means 'number' if the correct meaning is said to be 'more numb?'

To be safe, the general rule to go by is don't use "word+er" unless "more word" sounds fucked up.

Number is not a homonym, it's a heteronym.

Quote from: Myndfyre on September 04, 2003, 09:15 PM

Quote from: Hazard on September 03, 2003, 10:20 AM

Quote from: iago on September 03, 2003, 10:11 AM
Reading that took a hell of a lot longer than it should have, had you spelled out full words.  Please do me a favour: if you want any respect at all, spell out your words.  Thanks!

+1 for clearly stating what needed to be said.

!~!HaZaRD!~!

You know, that's the problem with the majority of America's youth today, and something that really just pisses me off.  People don't take the time to learn how to speak correctly.  Nor do they take the time to learn how to spell, or write.  It drives me crazy.  English is NOT a difficult language, especially if you LIVE in the UNITED STATES!  

Good site:
http://www.angryflower.com/itsits.gif
http://www.angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif

And a good example of how NOT to speak:
http://www.engrish.com/

I thought english was one of the most difficult languages to learn in the world...