A tree falling in the woods...

[j0k3r]

Time is CLEARLY a man made concept how do you know time passes the same way for a fox? How do you know plants expriance time in the same way. Our theory is OUR preception of time we cannot be sure its everything else's. We created time as WE know it. We CANNOT and will NEVER know if time is really the way we think it is. Please stop arguing in the face of clear facts. The only thing we can ever be certain of is that we will never be certain of anything.. or can we ?

I don't think your seeing my point... And I don't know how much more clearly I can state it. Time exists, it passes, things happen. I am NOT saying we created it, I am simply saying that we made a method of keeping track of it, that suits us. 1 second is pretty much the lowest we go because our mind's cannot really keep track of anything faster.

Know VB? Here's something that could help... Even if you don't know VB Think of it as a VB program without a timer, you need events to be triggered before anything can be done... And those events still rely on time (people, electricity, understand?). If you add a timer you can have things automated and things will progress... *sigh* Once again I feel like I have lost my point in a paragraph that is supposed to explain...

[iago]

j0k3r: I understand what you're trying to say, as does shadowrage.  But what you're saying has NOTHING to do with my point.  Minutes and seconds were invented by humans, and before that there were other ways to measure time (Galileo used a constant stream of water and weighed it for timed experiments).  That's not the type of time I'm talking about, just like sound as compression waves isn't the type of sound I'm talking about, and color as a certain type of light isn't what I'm talking about.  Re-read my posts without constantly thinking about your prejudices.. they are real valid philosophical points which have stood for hundreds of years.  

[j0k3r]

Science meets Philosophy (again)... Next time state that it's philosophical at the beginning of your post... You can avoid 4 pages of arguments.

Philosophically(sp?), I don't see how it matters whether a tree falls or not, it is not in your immediate presence and probably will not affect anything that will happen to you.

[Adron]

Well, since we all philosophically know nothing about anything, there's no use trying to make any philosophical point, and so we we can just abolish philosophy from the start

[iago]

Science meets Philosophy (again)... Next time state that it's philosophical at the beginning of your post... You can avoid 4 pages of arguments.

Philosophically(sp?), I don't see how it matters whether a tree falls or not, it is not in your immediate presence and probably will not affect anything that will happen to you.

Yes, see my post about "Best Argument Ever".

You clearly know nothing about philosophy, and your posts about it are unwelcome.

[Adron]

Which post is that?

[Hitmen]

http://forum.valhallalegends.com/phpbbs/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=2653

Use the search!

[Adron]

Ah that one. Hmm.

[iago]

I was referring to the argument about something that you don't see doesn't affect you

[Adron]

I was referring to the argument about something that you don't see doesn't affect you

Ah, I didn't quite see where that linked post fit into this. The magic of the number 7 seemed to be rather unrelated

Well, the way I see it, you should either embrace science and accept all the empirical knowledge that has been gathered there, or apply the strict philosophical "we do not know" stance, and then you can say nothing about anything