Shooting in Miami

[dxoigmn]

70% voted, not 70% voted for.  Anyway, that's still a 2/3 majority which is what is need in the US to pass a constitutional ammendment (just for comparission).

That's even worse.. so you don't even KNOW how 30% of the country feels? 

The sad thing is, voter turnout in the United States hovers around 50%.

George's should never be elected?  Say goodbye USA as our first president was a George.

I recall reading that he never really wanted the position.

[CrAz3D]

70% voted, not 70% voted for.  Anyway, that's still a 2/3 majority which is what is need in the US to pass a constitutional ammendment (just for comparission).

That's even worse.. so you don't even KNOW how 30% of the country feels? 

The sad thing is, voter turnout in the United States hovers around 50%.

George's should never be elected?  Say goodbye USA as our first president was a George.

I recall reading that he never really wanted the position.

I'm almost scared to interrupt Grok & Invert, but ANWAYS...heh;)

Wasn't this last election near 60%  (like 58 or so)?  I'm not debating that, I was just pointing out to iago that his arguement about not knowing what 30% of Iraq wants was irrelevant.

George numero uno, as I recall, didn't originally want it as he didn't want there to be a military king like power, he accepted eventually, though, obviously, w/the understanding that he was just the president, not the king of America

[Adron]

Wasn't this last election near 60%  (like 58 or so)?  I'm not debating that, I was just pointing out to iago that his arguement about not knowing what 30% of Iraq wants was irrelevant.

Actually we have a good idea about those 30% that didn't vote, considering that organizations opposed to the constitution urged their voters to boycott...

[iago]

Incidentally, I  like to say that I don't vote as a form of civil protest.  Politicians are lying scumbags, and I'm sick of their BS.  "They" wonder why voters are so apathetic -- I'm sure not, I'm just pissed off at the government. 

[CrAz3D]

Wasn't this last election near 60%  (like 58 or so)?  I'm not debating that, I was just pointing out to iago that his arguement about not knowing what 30% of Iraq wants was irrelevant.

Actually we have a good idea about those 30% that didn't vote, considering that organizations opposed to the constitution urged their voters to boycott...

What percent of the 30% didn't vote in protest?  What percent didn't vote cause they were busy?  What percent didn't vote cause they were scared shitless?  There aren't exit polls for those that don't go to the polls

[Adron]

What percent of the 30% didn't vote in protest?  What percent didn't vote cause they were busy?  What percent didn't vote cause they were scared shitless?  There aren't exit polls for those that don't go to the polls

Well, go look at the numbers for different parts of the country.

[CrAz3D]

you're the one that told me that "we" (whoever "we" are) have a good idea of what they wanted, that makes it your duty to back up your own argument, why would I find your facts? 

I say God exists, find proof he doesn't, you can't cause its just something from my mind.

[Explicit]

I say God exists, find proof he doesn't, you can't cause its just something from my mind.

That argument could be used against yourself also, couldn't it?  i.e., find proof that He does exist.  What it comes down to is that we are unable to prove it.

[Adron]

you're the one that told me that "we" (whoever "we" are) have a good idea of what they wanted, that makes it your duty to back up your own argument, why would I find your facts? 

Because you seem to have an awful lot of time to waste. Anyway, comparison of provinces:

The election commission said the predominantly Sunni province of Ninevah had produced a ``no'' vote of 55 percent. Only two other mostly Sunni provinces - Salahuddin and Anbar - had voted no by two-thirds or more. Ninevah had been a focus of fraud allegations since preliminary results had showed a large majority of voters had approved the constitution, despite a large Sunni Arab population there.

[Grok]

The election commission said the predominantly Sunni province of Ninevah had produced a ``no'' vote of 55 percent. Only two other mostly Sunni provinces - Salahuddin and Anbar - had voted no by two-thirds or more. Ninevah had been a focus of fraud allegations since preliminary results had showed a large majority of voters had approved the constitution, despite a large Sunni Arab population there.

Interesting.  It must be voting fraud because the non-vote polling showed approval of the constitution, yet when the voters went to the poll, most voted against it?

Rather than suspect every voter province of fraud, I would suspect the preliminary poll results of being fraudulent.  Far more likely too.

[Adron]

Interesting.  It must be voting fraud because the non-vote polling showed approval of the constitution, yet when the voters went to the poll, most voted against it?

Rather than suspect every voter province of fraud, I would suspect the preliminary poll results of being fraudulent.  Far more likely too.

Haha, yes, never trust preliminaries. They are exactly that, "preliminary".