Gay marriage

[Invert]

Not all heterosexual families want that many children. Many homosexual couples do want some children. Nonetheless, I agree that one should not create homosexual families for the sole, specific purpose of increasing the number of potential adoptive families. I only mean that the question of children isn't really relevant, because homosexual couples can raise children just as well as heterosexual couples.

Agree.

[Adron]

Not all heterosexual families want that many children. Many homosexual couples do want some children. Nonetheless, I agree that one should not create homosexual families for the sole, specific purpose of increasing the number of potential adoptive families. I only mean that the question of children isn't really relevant, because homosexual couples can raise children just as well as heterosexual couples.

But the question *is* relevant. It is relevant because raising children is not a problem. Children can be taken care of without needing homosexual couples to adopt them. In comparison, a heterosexual family can be used to *create* as well as *raise* children.

[CrAz3D]

Not all heterosexual families want that many children. Many homosexual couples do want some children. Nonetheless, I agree that one should not create homosexual families for the sole, specific purpose of increasing the number of potential adoptive families. I only mean that the question of children isn't really relevant, because homosexual couples can raise children just as well as heterosexual couples.

But would the 'quality' of the child be the same?  Growing with mom & mom wouldn't be a bit odd, maybe cause some weird emotional things to happen in the kid?

[hismajesty]

Funny enough, another post made me think of this thread:

And that's why American soldiers that hold anything of value are equipped with cyanide capsules.

How is it that America is so much against gay marriages, but condones suicide?

As I recall, suicide is one of the greatest sins somebody can commit, and guarentees them a place in Hell. I don't remember ever hearing about the "gay" section of Hell, where the homosexuals go.

Well, considering America doesn't hold a national religion, saying suicide dooms us to hell could be very controversial. Many religions consider sucide to be a very noble and honorable death.

[Forged]

Funny enough, another post made me think of this thread:

And that's why American soldiers that hold anything of value are equipped with cyanide capsules.

How is it that America is so much against gay marriages, but condones suicide?

As I recall, suicide is one of the greatest sins somebody can commit, and guarentees them a place in Hell. I don't remember ever hearing about the "gay" section of Hell, where the homosexuals go.

Well, considering America doesn't hold a national religion, saying suicide dooms us to hell could be very controversial. Many religions consider sucide to be a very noble and honorable death.

A few do, just like a few sects of christianity have no problem marrying a gay couple.

[Banana fanna fo fanna]

In my eyes, if the government banned gay marriage, it would be legislating into someone's life. Government should only prevent people from hurting each other...no?

Did I just make an argument for legalization of marijuana?

[iago]

Funny enough, another post made me think of this thread:

And that's why American soldiers that hold anything of value are equipped with cyanide capsules.

How is it that America is so much against gay marriages, but condones suicide?

As I recall, suicide is one of the greatest sins somebody can commit, and guarentees them a place in Hell. I don't remember ever hearing about the "gay" section of Hell, where the homosexuals go.

Well, considering America doesn't hold a national religion, saying suicide dooms us to hell could be very controversial. Many religions consider sucide to be a very noble and honorable death.

Wait, then I don't understand this post:

My View:
Civil Unions are okey dokey cause its legal reasons & such.
Marriage is bad cause that has always been a religious thing & most religions don't support homosexuality.
I don't agree w/homosexuality cause it doesn't make sense as to why someone would be gay.  There is no way to 'live on' through your kids, it has no purpose

If there's no national religion, why does religion influence your laws?

[hismajesty]

Because the nation was built on religious values.

By no national religion, I mean there isn't a...national religion.

I don't see what's so complicated about our country...

[CrAz3D]

to make sure its clear, the nation wasn't built on religion, it was built on religious values

[hismajesty]

NTG85002: Hahaha
NTG85002: Today I was at my psych 101 lecture, of about 300 people, and we were talking about Freud's psychosexual stages, and how he thought homosexuality was credited to an lack of influence from the same sex parent.
NTG85002: So in the middle of class, my friend says "I don't believe that.  If not having one of your parents around led to homosexuality, there would be a lot more black homosexuals."
NTG85002: The teacher was speechless.

[Warrior]

Funny enough, another post made me think of this thread:

And that's why American soldiers that hold anything of value are equipped with cyanide capsules.

How is it that America is so much against gay marriages, but condones suicide?

Well..I'd rather die then be tortured.

[jigsaw]

mar·riage   Audio pronunciation of "marriage" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (mrj)
n.

   1.
         1. The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.

PERIOD.

[Joe[x86]]

haha jigsaw.

My brother asked my dad why homosexuality was a sin, in the car on the way home from church on Wednesday.

Brother: Dad, why's homosexuality a sin?
Dad: Because in the beginning, there was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Tony.

[Arta]

haha jigsaw.

My brother asked my dad why homosexuality was a sin, in the car on the way home from church on Wednesday.

Brother: Dad, why's homosexuality a sin?
Dad: Because in the beginning, there was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Tony.

That's not really a very good answer. Get your brother to try again

mar·riage   Audio pronunciation of "marriage" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (mrj)
n.

   1.
         1. The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife.

PERIOD.

Nonsense. We change the definitions of things all the time, when it's appropriate to do so to suit changing conditions. Are you really arguing that we can't allow gay couples to marry because the dictionary says so?

But would the 'quality' of the child be the same?  Growing with mom & mom wouldn't be a bit odd, maybe cause some weird emotional things to happen in the kid?

I don't see why it would be any worse than growing up with one mum (and no dad). I think it's important for kids to have adults of their own gender around who good role models, but I don't think it's necessary for a parent to be that role model. Plenty of single-parent families have exactly the same problem.

I think it comes down to the quality of the mums. Good parents are good parents, regadless of their gender.

[CrAz3D]

haha jigsaw.

My brother asked my dad why homosexuality was a sin, in the car on the way home from church on Wednesday.

Brother: Dad, why's homosexuality a sin?
Dad: Because in the beginning, there was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Tony.

Adam & Stevesounds better