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Title: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: Fr0z3N on November 09, 2004, 09:30 PM
Hi I have a friend who unfortunatly locked herself out of her main account and has been using a guest account. She has forgot her password and her reminder helps her not. Any help would be appecriated as to how I could make a program to get her password [vb6] or as to how she would do it with step by step instruction.
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: quasi-modo on November 09, 2004, 09:32 PM
You cant in vb6 but there is software that can do it. You will need to get your hands on a copy of ERD commander.
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: Fr0z3N on November 09, 2004, 09:37 PM
For 150$ I'd rather burn my HD.
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: quasi-modo on November 09, 2004, 09:41 PM
Quote from: i8tweety on November 09, 2004, 09:37 PM
For 150$ I'd rather burn my HD.
Who said buy it?
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: Fr0z3N on November 09, 2004, 09:48 PM
Valhalla Legends does not support piracy.
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: iago on November 09, 2004, 09:53 PM
There's freeware software to reset your password.  I can't remember what it's called, unfortunately.

Or you can reinstall Windows XP :)
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: Thing on November 09, 2004, 10:00 PM
Google knows all ...
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: muert0 on November 10, 2004, 12:18 AM
Here:
http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: quasi-modo on November 10, 2004, 07:19 AM
Quote from: i8tweety on November 09, 2004, 09:48 PM
Valhalla Legends does not support piracy.
Who said anything about piracy? I am just saying if you need this software there are many ways to aquire it. I was more thinking that you could just borrow the software from a person you do not know over the internet. Think of it as 'sharing' the files. Okay okay its piracy. But ERD commander can do what you seek.
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: muert0 on November 10, 2004, 03:08 PM
Or you could just use the bootdisk I posted and it should be pretty simple.
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: quasi-modo on November 10, 2004, 04:38 PM
Quote from: muert0 on November 10, 2004, 03:08 PM
Or you could just use the bootdisk I posted and it should be pretty simple.
I bookmared that site. It might be fun for some pranks at the lan party I am going to be at this weekend  ;)
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: CrAzY on November 11, 2004, 02:07 PM
While booting up your computer, hit F8 until a Windows bootup selection comes up.  Choose safe mode and log on as "Administrator", after goto your control panel then edit your users, you can change password create user, everything.  Hope that helps
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: Zakath on November 11, 2004, 11:15 PM
I'll take this opportunity to plug my registry patch, which restores this (http://www.valhallalegends.com/zakath/good%20user%20management.png) to Windows XP.
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: Skywing on November 11, 2004, 11:25 PM
Quote from: Zakath on November 11, 2004, 11:15 PM
I'll take this opportunity to plug my registry patch, which restores this (http://www.valhallalegends.com/zakath/good%20user%20management.png) to Windows XP.
The win2k-style "friendly" user manager always tended to crash for me.  You should use compmgmt.msc instead.
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: Zakath on November 12, 2004, 12:00 AM
It tended to crash? Really? I've never had problems with it. I just can't stand the ugly XP default, so I changed it.
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: iago on November 17, 2004, 01:20 PM
At work we decided to test it out.  The boot disk failed miserably, but the cracker "L0ftcrack" took 4 hours to find every password on my computer (5 of them).  That's a full bruteforce with up to 14 characters letters+numbers.  With symbols, it's closer to 20 days.
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: Skywing on November 17, 2004, 01:21 PM
Use a 15 character password or disable LM password hash storage.
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: iago on November 17, 2004, 02:04 PM
We don't have control over the computers.  We aren't supposed to have Administrator accounts, only network ones. 

The problem with using a strong password is their limitations.  You can't repeat the same character more than twice, so if I try like, "IPC's where I works" or something like that, it's illegal because I have more than 2 spaces.  It makes it difficult to have a strong passphrase, so I settle for a 6 character one that I don't care much about.  The worst anybody will do to my computer is put an annoying script in my startup folder :)
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: Skywing on November 17, 2004, 02:10 PM
Quote from: iago on November 17, 2004, 02:04 PM
We don't have control over the computers.  We aren't supposed to have Administrator accounts, only network ones. 

The problem with using a strong password is their limitations.  You can't repeat the same character more than twice, so if I try like, "IPC's where I works" or something like that, it's illegal because I have more than 2 spaces.  It makes it difficult to have a strong passphrase, so I settle for a 6 character one that I don't care much about.  The worst anybody will do to my computer is put an annoying script in my startup folder :)
That sounds like an incredibly stupid rule (no repeated characters)...
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: iago on November 17, 2004, 03:43 PM
I agree.  It is good so people don't do aaaaaaaaaa, but it's bad because it blocks out my favourite passwords.

Hmm, I actually work for the department that would control that policy.  Perhaps I should bring it up.
Title: Re: Locked out of XP User account
Post by: Skywing on November 17, 2004, 04:40 PM
Quote from: iago on November 17, 2004, 03:43 PM
I agree.  It is good so people don't do aaaaaaaaaa, but it's bad because it blocks out my favourite passwords.

Hmm, I actually work for the department that would control that policy.  Perhaps I should bring it up.
It also helps an attacker bruteforce a password quite a bit if they are aware of such a policy (besides making it difficult to actually pick a good password)..