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Title: Linux apps to die for
Post by: jigsaw on September 22, 2004, 10:08 PM
Ah, now that I got this damn Package manager working... what are some apps / progs that a linux user can't live without, list some cool stuff whether it;s desktop enhancement or just programs.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: Newby on September 22, 2004, 10:14 PM
If you don't already have "The GIMP", "Gaim", "Firefox", or "Thunderbird", I suggest you get 'em all.

(I realize half of those are probably not on the package manager, but they're still leet)

And that AMOR (Amusing Waste of Resources) is indeed amusing. :)
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: quasi-modo on September 23, 2004, 08:21 AM
I prefer to use konqueror when I am  on linux just because it has built in spell checking. Fire fox is my browser of choice on windows.

Wine sucks but I suggest you get it.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: muert0 on September 23, 2004, 11:21 AM
All of those are probably already on his computer. And it's not that hard to get an extension for firefox that checks spelling.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: MyndFyre on September 23, 2004, 06:53 PM
Quote from: peofeoknight on September 23, 2004, 08:21 AM
I prefer to use konqueror when I am  on linux just because it has built in spell checking. Fire fox is my browser of choice on windows.

Wine sucks but I suggest you get it.

I noticed that Konqueror has spellchecking the first time I used it to post on the vL forums.  I couldn't figure out why in the world words were being underlined! :P
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: Maddox on September 23, 2004, 09:01 PM
Wine + Photoshop > the gimp
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: Newby on September 23, 2004, 09:02 PM
Quote from: Maddox on September 23, 2004, 09:01 PM
Wine + Photoshop > the gimp
Wine in general sucks.

Also, free software > commercial software.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: Hitmen on September 23, 2004, 09:07 PM
Quote from: Newby on September 23, 2004, 09:02 PM
Quote from: Maddox on September 23, 2004, 09:01 PM
Wine + Photoshop > the gimp
Wine in general sucks.

Also, free software > commercial software.
Free software that can't compare to comercial software sucks.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: Maddox on September 23, 2004, 09:10 PM
Quote from: Newby on September 23, 2004, 09:02 PM
Quote from: Maddox on September 23, 2004, 09:01 PM
Wine + Photoshop > the gimp
Wine in general sucks.

Also, free software > commercial software.

Photoshop can be free software too.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: Newby on September 23, 2004, 09:11 PM
Damn, I should have stated legally. :P
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: muert0 on September 23, 2004, 09:29 PM
And why does W.I.N.E. suck?
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on September 23, 2004, 09:31 PM
Because it's slow and barely ever works. Plus it's ugly.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: quasi-modo on September 23, 2004, 10:16 PM
Quote from: $t0rm on September 23, 2004, 09:31 PM
Because it's slow and barely ever works. Plus it's ugly.
yeah, half the crap I try to run with it gives me an error message. You can never game from it because of the lag, etc.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: muert0 on September 23, 2004, 10:43 PM
I've never had any problems with it but I've never really tried to run anything big from it.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: iago on September 24, 2004, 07:02 AM
What do you mean it's ugly? It looks the exact same as windows 2000!!

I once posted some screenshots to prove that point, but I don't know where they are..
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: muert0 on September 24, 2004, 09:38 AM
And if you have SuSE pro I can't really think of anything you could need that didn't come with the install unless you just did a default install.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: iago on September 24, 2004, 11:30 AM
If he did a default install, the first thing I recommend is "gcc".
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: muert0 on September 24, 2004, 11:42 AM
gcc is in the default install of SuSE pro. Personal is the one that doesn't have shit.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: jigsaw on September 25, 2004, 01:49 PM
What makes SuSE professional better than personal - havent really read about the differences.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: muert0 on September 25, 2004, 04:08 PM
Personal is missing a lot of items because of licensing issues. That's why it cost a little bit to get the SuSE pro disc or you can do a FTP install. If you have personal and would like Pro I can point you to a good tutorial I found on installing it by FTP. It only took me an hour to do a full install by FTP.
Title: Re:Linux apps to die for
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on September 25, 2004, 04:14 PM
Quote from: iago on September 24, 2004, 07:02 AM
What do you mean it's ugly? It looks the exact same as windows 2000!!

I once posted some screenshots to prove that point, but I don't know where they are..

GTK, one of the common toolkits, has a crappy refresh rate, crappy repaint handling, and is all around slow at drawing. Qt is encumbered by licensing issues and is also slow as hell and has a crappy refresh rate (but it's repaint handling is better).

Not to mention that almost all Linux apps are horribly not polished. They often resize the window without resizing components, not lined up correctly, and are loaded with spelling errors.

Title: Re: Linux apps to die for
Post by: mynameistmp on September 27, 2004, 02:52 AM
Quote
Not to mention that almost all Linux apps are horribly not polished. They often resize the window without resizing components, not lined up correctly, and are loaded with spelling errors.

Name some of these applications ?
Title: Re: Linux apps to die for
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on September 27, 2004, 02:04 PM
K anything is not polished (KOffice, KDE configurer)
OpenOffice is slow
AbiWord is not polished

Gaim screwed up my buddy list too.
Title: Re: Linux apps to die for
Post by: iago on September 27, 2004, 04:04 PM
Quote from: $t0rm on September 27, 2004, 02:04 PM
K anything is not polished (KOffice, KDE configurer)
OpenOffice is slow
AbiWord is not polished

Gaim screwed up my buddy list too.

It sounds to me like a problem with your computer, not with the software.
Title: Re: Linux apps to die for
Post by: mynameistmp on September 28, 2004, 02:41 AM
What I meant was, how is "K anything" not polished ? How is AbiWord not polished ? Which applications are loaded with spelling errors, which ones don't resize components, and which ones don't "line up correctly" ?

Also, have you ever compared the benchmarks for OpenOffice with other Office suites ? Or have you ever benchmarked it yourself ? Or are you just guessing ? Gut instinct ? I didn't know it was slow, and I'd be thankful if you could enlighten me.

I also wouldn't mind knowing where you're getting your information about GTK's crappy refresh rate, crappy repaint handling, and over all slowness at drawing.