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Programming => General Programming => Java Programming => Topic started by: Michael on September 21, 2004, 04:58 PM

Title: Well i want to learn java
Post by: Michael on September 21, 2004, 04:58 PM
Hi, i just downloaded Java 2 platform edition 1.4 SDK from java.sun.com and i want to learn how to use it and learn java so please help me!
Title: Re:Well i want to learn java
Post by: Tuberload on September 21, 2004, 05:07 PM
Check out this link: http://forum.valhallalegends.com/phpbbs/index.php?board=34;action=display;threadid=5461

Specifically I would read Thinking in Java by Bruce Eckel (http://mindview.net/Books/DownloadSites/). It is very informative, and a plus for me is that it is free. Learn the syntax of the language and figure out how it works.

Next I would recommend reading up on OOP in general. A lot of books even use Java as their testing language, so that is another plus.

Next download and learn how to navigate and understand the Java API Specification located here: http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/index.html . This will be your best friend shortly.

Next have fun and start making things. I recommend joining some sort of community project like JavaOp (http://javaop.clan-e1.net) or something, only because it has tremendously helped me learn programming concepts in general.

Have Fun,
Tuberload

Edit: Added JavaOp link.
Title: Re:Well i want to learn java
Post by: TangoFour on September 22, 2004, 07:19 AM
When I started learning Java as part of a programming course, we used the book "An Introduction to Programming and Object-Oriented Design using Java" by Jaime Nino and Frederick A. Hosch - which does pretty much what it says in the title - it's not exactly about Java, but it's a good introduction to OO (if the book's being used at a University level introductory programmign course it can't be that bad right?)

A good book about Java that I've used is "Just Java" by Peter van der Linden
Title: Re:Well i want to learn java
Post by: MyndFyre on September 22, 2004, 07:12 PM
Quote from: TangoFour on September 22, 2004, 07:19 AM
(if the book's being used at a University level introductory programmign course it can't be that bad right?)

Actually.... yes.

However, I believe that's the same book I used a couple years ago, and yes, it's quite good.  :)
Title: Re:Well i want to learn java
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on September 22, 2004, 07:13 PM
Our AP compsci class uses www.scsite.com/java

It's TERRIBLE! They're trying to make people hate computer science.
Title: Re:Well i want to learn java
Post by: muert0 on September 22, 2004, 09:00 PM
I'm liking Oreilly's Learning Java.
Title: Re:Well i want to learn java
Post by: Newby on September 23, 2004, 12:42 AM
Quote from: muert0 on September 22, 2004, 09:00 PM
I'm liking Oreilly's Learning Java.
O'Reilly is an awesome author. His "Practical C++ Programming" book is amazingly good. :)
Title: Re:Well i want to learn java
Post by: iago on September 23, 2004, 07:25 AM
Quote from: Newby on September 23, 2004, 12:42 AM
Quote from: muert0 on September 22, 2004, 09:00 PM
I'm liking Oreilly's Learning Java.
O'Reilly is an awesome author. His "Practical C++ Programming" book is amazingly good. :)

Dear die hard, you rock.  Especially the part where that guy was on the roof.  PS. do you know Mad Max?



O'Reilly isn't a person, it's a publishing company :P
Title: Re:Well i want to learn java
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on September 23, 2004, 02:44 PM
Really? (http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/tim_bio.html)
Title: Re:Well i want to learn java
Post by: Falcon[anti-yL] on September 23, 2004, 03:06 PM
Our CS class uses "Fundamentals of Java".
Title: Re: Well i want to learn java
Post by: R.a.B.B.i.T on September 30, 2004, 08:48 PM
Right now I'm using "A Guide to Programming in C++" by Lawrenceville Press, which is pretty good.  They have books for other things, and, if you can wait till July 2005, you can get their Java (http://www.lvp.com/javahe.htm) book.

PS: Stay away from "Java for Dummies" and "An Idiot's Guide to Java", they suck.
Title: Re: Well i want to learn java
Post by: hismajesty on September 30, 2004, 09:26 PM
Quote from: Falcon[anti-yL] on September 23, 2004, 03:06 PM
Our CS class uses "Fundamentals of Java".

My AP CS class uses that book as well. I've known everything pretty much so far so I've only skimmed it, I do think it's a bit vague on some things though - such as binary conversion.
Title: Re: Well i want to learn java
Post by: CrAzY on November 11, 2004, 02:16 PM
Quote from: R.a.B.B.i.T on September 30, 2004, 08:48 PM
Right now I'm using "A Guide to Programming in C++" by Lawrenceville Press, which is pretty good.  They have books for other things, and, if you can wait till July 2005, you can get their Java (http://www.lvp.com/javahe.htm) book.

PS: Stay away from "Java for Dummies" and "An Idiot's Guide to Java", they suck.

The best way to learn any language in my opinion is just reading scripts.  You get real life examples free  ;D

By the way, any book with more than 150 pages is probaly a waiste.  You only need to learn the basics and then you can just learn off java.sun.com
Title: Re: Well i want to learn java
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on November 11, 2004, 02:25 PM
Quote from: CrAzY on November 11, 2004, 02:16 PM
Quote from: R.a.B.B.i.T on September 30, 2004, 08:48 PM
Right now I'm using "A Guide to Programming in C++" by Lawrenceville Press, which is pretty good.  They have books for other things, and, if you can wait till July 2005, you can get their Java (http://www.lvp.com/javahe.htm) book.

PS: Stay away from "Java for Dummies" and "An Idiot's Guide to Java", they suck.

The best way to learn any language in my opinion is just reading scripts. You get real life examples free ;D

By the way, any book with more than 150 pages is probaly a waiste. You only need to learn the basics and then you can just learn off java.sun.com

Worthless post alert!!!
Title: Re: Well i want to learn java
Post by: MyndFyre on November 12, 2004, 01:42 AM
Quote from: Banana fanna fo fanna on November 11, 2004, 02:25 PM
Quote from: CrAzY on November 11, 2004, 02:16 PM
Quote from: R.a.B.B.i.T on September 30, 2004, 08:48 PM
Right now I'm using "A Guide to Programming in C++" by Lawrenceville Press, which is pretty good.  They have books for other things, and, if you can wait till July 2005, you can get their Java (http://www.lvp.com/javahe.htm) book.

PS: Stay away from "Java for Dummies" and "An Idiot's Guide to Java", they suck.

The best way to learn any language in my opinion is just reading scripts. You get real life examples free ;D

By the way, any book with more than 150 pages is probaly a waiste. You only need to learn the basics and then you can just learn off java.sun.com

Worthless post alert!!!

Worthless post alert!!!

(Note: I think you're generally a pretty good guy $t0rm.  But sometimes you're a hypocrite.  :P)
Title: Re: Well i want to learn java
Post by: Banana fanna fo fanna on November 12, 2004, 02:00 PM
Eh, I dunno. I was debunking the statement that the "best way to learn any language is just reading scripts", and that "any book with more than 150 pages is probaly a waiste."
Title: Re: Well i want to learn java
Post by: Zakath on November 13, 2004, 06:25 PM
Yes, I agree with $t0rm here. Explanations of the more complex/advanced features of a language like Java are more valuable than explanations of the basics, imo, making Rabbit's statement blatantly false.