Well I just bought a Macbook.
It has built in wireless stuff.
Im using the thing called Airport on it, to access wireless networks in my range.
I found one which didn't require any password, hence it was unsecured.
and now I use it. 8)
dont worry though, I use a VPN and when using usernames/pws I make sure the site is using https or other encryption methods.
However....does anyone know the law behind accessing wireless networks which arn't urs? I've searched quite a bit and there isnt really a concrete answer given.
Plus if the guy doesnt even know how to enable protection on his network I doubt he or she would know how to lookup whos on the network.
BUT, if they do know how to look up whos on the network, what can they actually do to that users, this goes back to the law part of it.
on a side note, these macbooks are freakin cool, id recommend em for college students; its real quiet so perfect for during lectures.
Network operators are responsible for all traffic on their network(s). If it is unsecured, it is technically a public network, and you can do whatever you want.
Applicable law varies widely. There have been some cases where individuals were prosecuted for unauthorized access to an unsecured wireless network. Most non-technical users tend to think of an unsecured wireless network as being akin to a house with an open door: easy to get into, but still trespassing. Unless you want to count on getting an informed jury / prosecutor, my advice is not to use that network.
Using an unsecured network is technically illegal, and can be considered trespassing on a computer network. It is fairly easy to trace somebody doing it, if the router's owner is so inclined, and the punishment can be harsh. I don't recommend it.
Quote from: rabbit on October 07, 2007, 03:05 PM
Network operators are responsible for all traffic on their network(s). If it is unsecured, it is technically a public network, and you can do whatever you want.
Quote from: iago on October 07, 2007, 05:52 PM
Using an unsecured network is technically illegal, and can be considered trespassing on a computer network. It is fairly easy to trace somebody doing it, if the router's owner is so inclined, and the punishment can be harsh. I don't recommend it.
One saying it is technically ok, and other saying technically not ok.
Im probably just going to leave it alone
Taking into account that it's iago and Kp vs rabbit, I'm with you.
And taking into account that we live in different countries where [internet] laws are usually different, I'd go with where you live.
In the US and Canada, it's illegal. Period. I don't know about other countries.
Quote from: rabbit on October 20, 2007, 08:25 AM
And taking into account that we live in different countries where [internet] laws are usually different, I'd go with where you live.
That claim might hold if you were the one advocating caution and we were advocating that he use it. However, you are advising him to take actions which may be illegal based on the belief that he
might live in a jurisdiction where those actions are not illegal.
It's only illegal where people press charges.
Obviously if someone doesn't have the right mind to put a password on their router (which is prompted upon installation) they more likely than not won't take notice of your free ride.
A friend of a friend has been doing it for 2 and a half years, lucky him the user upgraded to a higher tier of cable!
7 Mb/s here they come! :-P
Quote from: Ishbar on October 21, 2007, 11:49 PM
It's only illegal where people press charges.
So is burglary and assault.
Quote from: Ishbar on October 21, 2007, 11:49 PM
Obviously if someone doesn't have the right mind to put a password on their router (which is prompted upon installation) they more likely than not won't take notice of your free ride.
A friend of a friend has been doing it for 2 and a half years, lucky him the user upgraded to a higher tier of cable!
7 Mb/s here they come! :-P
I don't have a password on my router, but I routinely check who's using it and what they're doing. So it may not always be quite so simple.
Quote from: Kp on October 21, 2007, 12:56 PM
Quote from: rabbit on October 20, 2007, 08:25 AM
And taking into account that we live in different countries where [internet] laws are usually different, I'd go with where you live.
That claim might hold if you were the one advocating caution and we were advocating that he use it. However, you are advising him to take actions which may be illegal based on the belief that he might live in a jurisdiction where those actions are not illegal.
I never said "do it", I just stated one possible option (of course, he could always not do it).
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