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Title: Service Packs
Post by: Barabajagal on September 14, 2007, 09:11 PM
Just wondering what people think of the new Service Packs for Windows XP (SP3) (http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx) and Vista (SP1) (http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/windowsvista/pages/windows-vista-service-pack-1-beta-whitepaper.aspx). Vista's service pack will most likely be released by the end of the year, or the beginning of 08, and XP's most likely in the first half of 08 (after Vista's). I'm sort of wondering why they're itching to release a service pack to a new OS so soon... are there lots of problems they didn't tell anyone about? Or perhaps it's a financial move, trying to rack in more customers. In any case, I've changed my stance on getting Vista from "Wait for SP2" to "Wait for SP3", since SP1 is coming out way earlier than I anticipated.
Title: Re: Service Packs
Post by: Kp on September 14, 2007, 10:49 PM
The conspiracy theory explanation is that Vista SP1 is because of people who prefer never to install an RTM build, but instead wait for the first service pack.

The technical theory is that there are a lot of problems.  Although unfortunate, this is not entirely unforeseeable since this is Microsoft's first desktop OS release in 5-6 years, and they did make fairly substantial changes to some components (MIC, UIPI, UAC, and a new IPv4/IPv6 stack all come to mind).  Once the number of hotfixes exceeds a certain threshold, applying all the patches gets to be such a pain that people want a roll up patch.  Roll up patches sometimes take the form of service packs.
Title: Re: Service Packs
Post by: Barabajagal on September 14, 2007, 10:52 PM
XP SP2 already has like... 60 updates to it after a fresh install. What's vista at? Maybe 30? (Honestly, I don't know. I don't intend to touch Vista for 4 years or 3 service packs, whichever's last.)
Title: Re: Service Packs
Post by: warz on September 16, 2007, 05:02 PM
I have had no problems with an out of the box vista installation.
Title: Re: Service Packs
Post by: Newby on September 16, 2007, 08:28 PM
Me neither. I think the problems people describe are PICNICs since I can't re-create hardly any of them.
Title: Re: Service Packs
Post by: Barabajagal on September 16, 2007, 08:34 PM
It's not just security, it's compatibility with hardware and applications. It's an issue of popularity and usage, and security becomes an issue because of popularity. If no worms or major viruses break out in the first year, it's pretty safe. Three years and it's a great OS.  Never, and it's Linux ;)
Title: Re: Service Packs
Post by: vuther.de on September 16, 2007, 09:50 PM
They need to add DX10 to XP.
Title: Re: Service Packs
Post by: Newby on September 17, 2007, 09:37 AM
delete. not enough time to start arguing about compatibility issues with hardware and linux.
Title: Re: Service Packs
Post by: Barabajagal on September 17, 2007, 01:09 PM
My previous post was meant as a joke. Sorry if you misconstrued it.
Title: Re: Service Packs
Post by: Michael on September 17, 2007, 09:02 PM
any idea what will be in SP3 mainly? other then all the hotfixes? like any new/major changes?
Title: Re: Service Packs
Post by: Barabajagal on September 17, 2007, 10:31 PM
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-XP-Service-Pack-3-Leaked-Details-57825.shtml
Title: Re: Service Packs
Post by: MrRaza on September 22, 2007, 10:09 PM
Quote from: Andy on September 17, 2007, 10:31 PM
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Windows-XP-Service-Pack-3-Leaked-Details-57825.shtml

Doesn't say anything important?
Title: Re: Service Packs
Post by: Barabajagal on September 22, 2007, 10:19 PM
Not really.