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Title: Best OS for a server
Post by: Forged on January 31, 2006, 10:06 PM
What would be the best operating to install if I wanted to use an old computer as a server?  I intend on using it mainly to test things before I put it on my website, and to also share files with friends.

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Something that comes with PHP, APACHE, and MYSQL would be nice.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Eric on January 31, 2006, 10:18 PM
FreeBSD or almost any Linux distro.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Invert on January 31, 2006, 10:47 PM
Windows servers work well too.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: iago on January 31, 2006, 11:39 PM
I'd probably say FreeBSD would be best, followed by pretty much any Linux. 

Invert -- Getting PHP, Apache, and MySQL on a Windows server is more trouble than it's worth, I've found. 
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: JTN Designer on January 31, 2006, 11:48 PM
Quote from: iago on January 31, 2006, 11:39 PM
I'd probably say FreeBSD would be best, followed by pretty much any Linux. 

Invert -- Getting PHP, Apache, and MySQL on a Windows server is more trouble than it's worth, I've found. 

Was easy for me. On all builds I've installed it on.

As for Linux, CentOS Server 4.x works well, Red Hat Enterprise 3-4, ss well as other distros. However Solaris is nice to use, if your familiar with it.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: dxoigmn on February 01, 2006, 02:09 AM
Quote from: iago on January 31, 2006, 11:39 PM
Invert -- Getting PHP, Apache, and MySQL on a Windows server is more trouble than it's worth, I've found. 

xampp (http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html) with some config file changes for security and you're set.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Joe[x86] on February 01, 2006, 07:07 AM
iago uses Slackware for x86labs.org and javaop.com. He's got 99% uptime, and IMO, it's rather fast. Having hosting with him is nice, too, but I'm not him so I can't tell you how hard it was to set up.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: MyndFyre on February 01, 2006, 08:06 AM
Quote from: iago on January 31, 2006, 11:39 PM
Invert -- Getting PHP, Apache, and MySQL on a Windows server is more trouble than it's worth, I've found. 
With a fast internet connection it took me about 5 minutes to get all that installed + MediaWiki.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: quasi-modo on February 01, 2006, 10:10 AM
Quote from: JTN Designer on January 31, 2006, 11:48 PM
Quote from: iago on January 31, 2006, 11:39 PM
I'd probably say FreeBSD would be best, followed by pretty much any Linux. 

Invert -- Getting PHP, Apache, and MySQL on a Windows server is more trouble than it's worth, I've found. 

Was easy for me. On all builds I've installed it on.

As for Linux, CentOS Server 4.x works well, Red Hat Enterprise 3-4, ss well as other distros. However Solaris is nice to use, if your familiar with it.
Oh God I hate solaris. I personally think Solaris is a pain in the ass. IMO Id go with ubuntu or suse or something.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: MrRaza on February 01, 2006, 11:52 AM
I've been starting to use Windows Server 2003 standard edition lately, I like it.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Skywing on February 01, 2006, 05:18 PM
Quote from: iago on January 31, 2006, 11:39 PM
I'd probably say FreeBSD would be best, followed by pretty much any Linux. 

Invert -- Getting PHP, Apache, and MySQL on a Windows server is more trouble than it's worth, I've found. 

It of course depends heavily on the tasks you are doing.  If you are getting a beefy multiproc box though, I would probably stay away from linux.  From my experiences at work, linux isn't nearly as good as Windows from a scheduling and processor resource management perspective (especially Windows Server 2003) in multiproc scenarios.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: quasi-modo on February 01, 2006, 05:43 PM
Some of the fancy proprietary forms of unix are very sexy when it comes to stuff like that. But I don't know how you would get your hands on something like QNX / Neutrino or some of the other new dual core / dual proc modified distros.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Eric on February 01, 2006, 05:46 PM
Quote from: quasi-modo on February 01, 2006, 05:43 PM
Some of the fancy proprietary forms of unix are very sexy when it comes to stuff like that.

Seing as how they're meant for that specific task, I'd hope so.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: JTN Designer on February 02, 2006, 01:53 AM
Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2006, 07:07 AM
iago uses Slackware for x86labs.org and javaop.com. He's got 99% uptime, and IMO, it's rather fast. Having hosting with him is nice, too, but I'm not him so I can't tell you how hard it was to set up.

Uptime is not judged by the OS, in certain instances, MAYBE, but not enough to really make a difference.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Kp on February 02, 2006, 06:24 PM
Quote from: JTN Designer on February 02, 2006, 01:53 AM
Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2006, 07:07 AMiago uses Slackware for x86labs.org and javaop.com. He's got 99% uptime, and IMO, it's rather fast. Having hosting with him is nice, too, but I'm not him so I can't tell you how hard it was to set up.
Uptime is not judged by the OS, in certain instances, MAYBE, but not enough to really make a difference.

Quote from: MicrosoftAfter applying this critical security update, you may need to reboot your computer.

;)
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Warrior on February 02, 2006, 06:24 PM
Hah!
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Eric on February 02, 2006, 06:27 PM
Quote from: Kp on February 02, 2006, 06:24 PM
Quote from: JTN Designer on February 02, 2006, 01:53 AM
Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2006, 07:07 AMiago uses Slackware for x86labs.org and javaop.com. He's got 99% uptime, and IMO, it's rather fast. Having hosting with him is nice, too, but I'm not him so I can't tell you how hard it was to set up.
Uptime is not judged by the OS, in certain instances, MAYBE, but not enough to really make a difference.

Quote from: MicrosoftAfter applying this critical security update, you may need to reboot your computer.

;)

Disable automatic updates?  ;p
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Ender on February 04, 2006, 07:58 PM
But then you won't get the update... lol that's funny.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Grok on February 04, 2006, 11:44 PM
Quote from: iago on January 31, 2006, 11:39 PM
I'd probably say FreeBSD would be best, followed by pretty much any Linux. 

Invert -- Getting PHP, Apache, and MySQL on a Windows server is more trouble than it's worth, I've found. 

Says more about those applications than the server.  It's quite easy to create a great install package for Windows programs.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Tazo on February 05, 2006, 09:05 AM
also try wamp (http://www.en.wampserver.com/) for a windows server
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: topaz on February 05, 2006, 05:10 PM
Ubuntu is great for servers, tons of support and regular releases.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Joe[x86] on February 05, 2006, 05:31 PM
Quote from: Kp on February 02, 2006, 06:24 PM
Quote from: JTN Designer on February 02, 2006, 01:53 AM
Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2006, 07:07 AMiago uses Slackware for x86labs.org and javaop.com. He's got 99% uptime, and IMO, it's rather fast. Having hosting with him is nice, too, but I'm not him so I can't tell you how hard it was to set up.
Uptime is not judged by the OS, in certain instances, MAYBE, but not enough to really make a difference.

Quote from: MicrosoftAfter applying this critical security update, you may need to reboot your computer.

;)

Hah. Not to mention Windows has a tendancy to suddenly stop dead in it's tracks. No BSOD or anything.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: quasi-modo on February 06, 2006, 01:22 AM
Quote from: Joe on February 05, 2006, 05:31 PM
Quote from: Kp on February 02, 2006, 06:24 PM
Quote from: JTN Designer on February 02, 2006, 01:53 AM
Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2006, 07:07 AMiago uses Slackware for x86labs.org and javaop.com. He's got 99% uptime, and IMO, it's rather fast. Having hosting with him is nice, too, but I'm not him so I can't tell you how hard it was to set up.
Uptime is not judged by the OS, in certain instances, MAYBE, but not enough to really make a difference.

Quote from: MicrosoftAfter applying this critical security update, you may need to reboot your computer.

;)

Hah. Not to mention Windows has a tendancy to suddenly stop dead in it's tracks. No BSOD or anything.
huh... I run w2k advanced server and I can get two week long uptimes without any loss of service, provided that the power is constant. Sounds to me like you have encountered some sort of hardware failure or have a bad install because that certainly isn't the norm.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Eric on February 06, 2006, 01:52 AM
Quote from: quasi-modo on February 06, 2006, 01:22 AM
Quote from: Joe on February 05, 2006, 05:31 PM
Quote from: Kp on February 02, 2006, 06:24 PM
Quote from: JTN Designer on February 02, 2006, 01:53 AM
Quote from: Joe on February 01, 2006, 07:07 AMiago uses Slackware for x86labs.org and javaop.com. He's got 99% uptime, and IMO, it's rather fast. Having hosting with him is nice, too, but I'm not him so I can't tell you how hard it was to set up.
Uptime is not judged by the OS, in certain instances, MAYBE, but not enough to really make a difference.

Quote from: MicrosoftAfter applying this critical security update, you may need to reboot your computer.

;)

Hah. Not to mention Windows has a tendancy to suddenly stop dead in it's tracks. No BSOD or anything.
huh... I run w2k advanced server and I can get two week long uptimes without any loss of service, provided that the power is constant. Sounds to me like you have encountered some sort of hardware failure or have a bad install because that certainly isn't the norm.

I've had my w3k box up for well over 30 days.
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Kp on February 06, 2006, 06:18 PM
Quote from: quasi-modo on February 06, 2006, 01:22 AMhuh... I run w2k advanced server and I can get two week long uptimes without any loss of service, provided that the power is constant. Sounds to me like you have encountered some sort of hardware failure or have a bad install because that certainly isn't the norm.

What happens at the end of that two weeks?
Title: Re: Best OS for a server
Post by: Newby on February 06, 2006, 06:51 PM
Quote from: Lord[nK] on February 06, 2006, 01:52 AM
I've had my w3k box up for well over 30 days.

I want a w3k box.