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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Joe[x86] on December 12, 2005, 03:39 PM

Poll
Question: Whats your ping?
Option 1: =< 100ms votes: 3
Option 2: > 100ms votes: 1
Option 3: > 300ms votes: 0
Option 4: > 700ms votes: 0
Option 5: > 1000ms votes: 2
Title: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: Joe[x86] on December 12, 2005, 03:39 PM
I'm thinking about getting satillite DSL, and I'm wondering if games over the internet (CS, half-life, perhaps WoW) will still (what do I mean still, their not right now) be playable.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL uses..
Post by: Falcon[anti-yL] on December 12, 2005, 03:46 PM
From what I've read Satellite broadband is a bad choice if you have other options in your area, mainly because the quality of your connection will depend on the weather at the time. From some of the reviews I've read, you lose sync alot and online gaming is... well non existant.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: Joe[x86] on December 12, 2005, 03:58 PM
Weather isn't really an issue. Neither is snow. If it wants to try to keep me from gaming, climbing up on my roof will to clear off dish will be done in 3.14 seconds.

Warrior said he gets like, 40ms pings on CS with his setup, Cuphead said he got 1000ms, and I heard from someone else that they get 8 seconds.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: QwertyMonster on December 12, 2005, 03:59 PM
Oops i put > 100ms. Sorry i meant to put =< 100ms.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: hismajesty on December 12, 2005, 04:00 PM
It'd be the same as Satellite TV. A storm means no service.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: MyndFyre on December 12, 2005, 04:41 PM
Quote from: hismajesty[yL] on December 12, 2005, 04:00 PM
It'd be the same as Satellite TV. A storm means no service.
We have some of the coolest electrical and rainstorms in Arizona, and I've never seen a problem with satellite TV.  DirecTV specifically.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: Newby on December 12, 2005, 04:57 PM
You should specify "what is your ping" by specifying they ping a specific server. Asking "what is your ping" is extremely broad.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: rabbit on December 12, 2005, 06:20 PM
Satellite DSL makes no sense.....

Anyway, all of my friends who have satellite can't play CS with <2000 ping.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: MrRaza on December 13, 2005, 07:10 AM
Try wireless internet that uses microwaves, I think execulink has some sort of package, http://my.execulink.com/personalInternet/wireless/wireless.shtml. Seems like you can get decent speeds. How it works is, there is a receiver(M900S™ 900 MHz Broadband Access System) on your roof then cabling comes from that then simply hooks up to your desktop or laptop. Some more information regarding speeds ishere (http://my.execulink.com/personalInternet/internetFaqs.shtml?id=20040225134247&division=internet). Although it's not perfect, it might just be better than satillite.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: rabbit on December 13, 2005, 04:04 PM
Satellite is inherently slow upstream, and fast downstream, which is bad for gaming no matter what.  "DSL", Direct Subscriber Loop, is defined by hi-speed over the normal copper cables.  How can you have copper cables from a satellite?
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: hismajesty on December 13, 2005, 04:08 PM
Quote from: MyndFyre on December 12, 2005, 04:41 PM
Quote from: hismajesty[yL] on December 12, 2005, 04:00 PM
It'd be the same as Satellite TV. A storm means no service.
We have some of the coolest electrical and rainstorms in Arizona, and I've never seen a problem with satellite TV. DirecTV specifically.

Woah really? Whenever I go to my grandparents house in Florida, especially in the summer (when they get these really bad storms every afternoon), we would lose DirecTV service for like an hour.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: MrRaza on December 13, 2005, 06:03 PM
Quote from: rabbit on December 13, 2005, 04:04 PM
Satellite is inherently slow upstream, and fast downstream, which is bad for gaming no matter what.  "DSL", Direct Subscriber Loop, is defined by hi-speed over the normal copper cables.  How can you have copper cables from a satellite?

You don't. Think about it.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: rabbit on December 13, 2005, 09:06 PM
That's what I'm saying.  In simpler terms: Joe, your topic name makes no sense.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: iago on December 13, 2005, 09:09 PM
Quote from: rabbit on December 13, 2005, 04:04 PM
Satellite is inherently slow upstream, and fast downstream, which is bad for gaming no matter what.  "DSL", Direct Subscriber Loop, is defined by hi-speed over the normal copper cables.  How can you have copper cables from a satellite?

DSL = Digital Subscriber Line

And you are correct, it is defined as:
<communications, protocol> A family of digital telecommunications
protocols designed to allow high speed data communication
over the existing copper telephone lines between end-users
and telephone companies.


But it wouldn't be the first time an ISP uses words like DSL incorrectly, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if there really was a satellite version of DSL. 
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: MrRaza on December 13, 2005, 09:23 PM
I don't like the fact that they sell internet with capped speeds and then try and sell Extreme versions with no capping at all. I think AOL does this. It just makes me mad, but I can understand at the same time why they do it.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: rabbit on December 14, 2005, 07:03 PM
Link....loop....line...whatever.  Same general idea.  Knowing AOL, they probably do.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: Trance on December 16, 2005, 03:28 AM
You'll never get a great ping with satellite internet because well, you gotta send the signal up into space, back down get your info, then the provider sends it back up and down to you.

As far as satellite tv goes, it's much better than any cable I've had as far as reliability and picture quality goes. May want to try a different transponder if your picture dies in storms.
Title: Re: Satillite DSL users..
Post by: rabbit on December 17, 2005, 03:31 PM
Ah, that's because TV is sending so little up and getting so much down, there's not even a need for speedy up times.