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Programming => General Programming => Visual Basic Programming => Topic started by: QwertyMonster on December 06, 2005, 12:43 PM

Title: Hmm help please?
Post by: QwertyMonster on December 06, 2005, 12:43 PM
Hello.

I am trying to code a program that will log everything sent and received on MSN Messenger. Like if i said 'hihi' to somebody, i would then want it to be displayed on my program thats it been sent.

And also, how would i get this to work on somebody else's computer? Like could i see what they are sending and receiving without having to put a program on their computer?

Bit of help please. (And no im not building a keylogger or anything, i was just curious on how it worked and wanted to try some stuff).
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: Networks on December 06, 2005, 04:00 PM
Quote from: QwertyMonster on December 06, 2005, 12:43 PM
And also, how would i get this to work on somebody else's computer? Like could i see what they are sending and receiving without having to put a program on their computer?

You would only be able to see what they send to you not all the messages they send to others.

Also this may be possible if you use MSN clients like GAIM which allow plugins. That's the simplest way I believe you could do it.
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: Newby on December 06, 2005, 07:27 PM
Quote from: QwertyMonster on December 06, 2005, 12:43 PM
And also, how would i get this to work on somebody else's computer? Like could i see what they are sending and receiving without having to put a program on their computer?

If you managed to intercept their traffic, you could sniff it.
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: Mangix on December 07, 2005, 01:27 AM
Quote from: QwertyMonster on December 06, 2005, 12:43 PM
And also, how would i get this to work on somebody else's computer? Like could i see what they are sending and receiving without having to put a program on their computer?
you can see what they are sending to YOU but you cant see what they receive from someone who isnt you. you could prolly do that if this persons computer is connected over a home network or something(im only 0.1% sure).

as for packets sniffers, http://www.winpcap.org
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: hismajesty on December 07, 2005, 05:15 AM
Gaim keeps logs automatically.
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: Joe[x86] on December 07, 2005, 07:08 AM
I asume you want to log traffic, not whats being said.

As Mangix said, see WinPCap (http://www.winpcap.org/) (Windows Packet Capture Library). I've never used it in VB, but I think theres some example stuff out there (planet sourcecode?). Doing that you can receive each packet received, then parse it (for the correct port, etc), then debugoutput it, or whatever you want.
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: QwertyMonster on December 07, 2005, 09:50 AM
So theres no way to see what somebody else says to somebody else, and what they receive? Aww damn... or am i reading what you lot said in the wrong way?

I will check out those links you gave me.
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: Adron on December 07, 2005, 10:16 AM
Quote from: QwertyMonster on December 07, 2005, 09:50 AM
So theres no way to see what somebody else says to somebody else, and what they receive? Aww damn... or am i reading what you lot said in the wrong way?

I will check out those links you gave me.

There are many ways actually. For example, you could break into Microsoft's computers handling MSN chats and grab it there. Or you could cut the phone line/cable connection of your target and insert sniffing hardware to analyze the traffic passing.
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: MyndFyre on December 07, 2005, 10:50 AM
Quote from: Adron on December 07, 2005, 10:16 AM
Quote from: QwertyMonster on December 07, 2005, 09:50 AM
So theres no way to see what somebody else says to somebody else, and what they receive? Aww damn... or am i reading what you lot said in the wrong way?

I will check out those links you gave me.

There are many ways actually. For example, you could break into Microsoft's computers handling MSN chats and grab it there. Or you could cut the phone line/cable connection of your target and insert sniffing hardware to analyze the traffic passing.

At first I thought Kp wrote that response.

You know, you could also insert a trojan onto other people's computers.  Or install Winpcap and then use the remote sniffing service.
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: QwertyMonster on December 07, 2005, 04:01 PM
Hmm is cutting the phone line and sniffing there traffic difficult Adron?

And MyndFyre, my first idea was to build a trojan or a keylogger type application and use it like that.... i could make a PacketLogger, and insert it into my application, send it to there pc and make it so all info logged by the Packetlogger is sent somewhere or is logged.. would that work?
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: Mangix on December 07, 2005, 04:02 PM
Quote from: Joe on December 07, 2005, 07:08 AM
As Mangix said, see WinPCap (http://www.winpcap.org/) (Windows Packet Capture Library). I've never used it in VB, but I think theres some example stuff out there (planet sourcecode?). Doing that you can receive each packet received, then parse it (for the correct port, etc), then debugoutput it, or whatever you want.
PacketX (http://www.beesync.com/packetx/index.html)
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: Ringo on December 07, 2005, 05:21 PM
Quote from: QwertyMonster on December 06, 2005, 12:43 PM
Bit of help please. (And no im not building a keylogger or anything, i was just curious on how it worked and wanted to try some stuff).
Quote from: QwertyMonster on December 07, 2005, 04:01 PM
my first idea was to build a trojan or a keylogger type application and use it like that....
*laughs* :D
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: K on December 07, 2005, 05:31 PM
Quote from: QwertyMonster on December 07, 2005, 04:01 PM
Hmm is cutting the phone line and sniffing there traffic difficult Adron?

Extremely difficult if they have cable internet.
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: rabbit on December 07, 2005, 08:49 PM
Don't forget about satellite!
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: Grok on December 07, 2005, 10:48 PM
Quote from: K on December 07, 2005, 05:31 PM
Quote from: QwertyMonster on December 07, 2005, 04:01 PM
Hmm is cutting the phone line and sniffing there traffic difficult Adron?

Extremely difficult if they have cable internet.

Why extremely difficult?  It's just RG 59?  If you can splice coax you can add something inline.  Might also be able to use a vampire tap to read the center conductor.  None of this is necessary if you're on their cable hub, just put your network card in promiscuous mode and listen in on all their traffic.
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: K on December 08, 2005, 01:09 AM
Quote from: Grok on December 07, 2005, 10:48 PM
Quote from: K on December 07, 2005, 05:31 PM
Quote from: QwertyMonster on December 07, 2005, 04:01 PM
Hmm is cutting the phone line and sniffing there traffic difficult Adron?

Extremely difficult if they have cable internet.

Why extremely difficult?  It's just RG 59?  If you can splice coax you can add something inline.  Might also be able to use a vampire tap to read the center conductor.  None of this is necessary if you're on their cable hub, just put your network card in promiscuous mode and listen in on all their traffic.

Well, if you want to cheat and cut the coaxial cable instead of the phone line.
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: QwertyMonster on December 08, 2005, 02:15 AM
Hmm, thank you for all the help. I will read up on all of this and see what i can do. For now i think i am ok, thanks for all the help guys!
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: Forged on December 08, 2005, 11:43 AM
I wouldn't suggest messing with any cables.  Unless of course, you do not fear being raped in prison.
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: Adron on December 08, 2005, 12:33 PM
I would suggest not messing with anyone else's messages at all. Unless of course, you do not fear being raped in prison.
Title: Re: Hmm help please?
Post by: Grok on December 08, 2005, 02:46 PM
Quote from: K on December 08, 2005, 01:09 AM
Quote from: Grok on December 07, 2005, 10:48 PM
Quote from: K on December 07, 2005, 05:31 PM
Quote from: QwertyMonster on December 07, 2005, 04:01 PM
Hmm is cutting the phone line and sniffing there traffic difficult Adron?

Extremely difficult if they have cable internet.

Why extremely difficult?  It's just RG 59?  If you can splice coax you can add something inline.  Might also be able to use a vampire tap to read the center conductor.  None of this is necessary if you're on their cable hub, just put your network card in promiscuous mode and listen in on all their traffic.

Well, if you want to cheat and cut the coaxial cable instead of the phone line.

Haha!  OK I see why you said extremely difficult and I concur.