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Title: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: MrRaza on September 06, 2005, 10:54 PM
I've looked around the intel website for drivers that might be needing an update and didnt find much, my procressor speed is running at 798Mhz. I am wondering why, and if anyone has some idea's on how to get it closer to 1.86Ghz.

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.86GHz
Memory: 1024MB RAM
         
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: Blaze on September 06, 2005, 10:56 PM
It would be in your BIOS setup.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: MrRaza on September 06, 2005, 11:02 PM
What would i need to edit or configure?
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: Blaze on September 06, 2005, 11:03 PM
When your computer starts up, hit delete. (This is for most setups)

Look around the options, but don't change anything if you don't know what it does.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: MrRaza on September 06, 2005, 11:20 PM
Well, I can't seem to get into the BIOS settings screen, i tried to hit delete when i reboot but i get a message saying that Windows didn't load correctly and gives me various options to load in Safe mode or Load the last known good configuration that was used last or load windows normally. I am on a labtop here, that might make a different. I know how to get into BIOS normally on my PC btw.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: Blaze on September 06, 2005, 11:24 PM
Quote from: MrRaza on September 06, 2005, 11:20 PM
Well, I can't seem to get into the BIOS settings screen, i tried to hit delete when i reboot but i get a message saying that Windows didn't load correctly and gives me various options to load in Safe mode or Load the last known good configuration that was used last or load windows normally. I am on a labtop here, that might make a different. I know how to get into BIOS normally on my PC btw.
That scren is activated by F8, or a bad windows start up..

Read your screen when booting up for anything to do with setup or bios.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: Hitmen on September 06, 2005, 11:29 PM
Try plugging your laptop in. Most laptops automatically underclock when not plugged in to conserve battery life.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: MrRaza on September 06, 2005, 11:31 PM
Well, it is plugged in, but maybe i will take a look at Power Management Options to see if something there is underclocking it.

edit: nope.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: Hitmen on September 06, 2005, 11:49 PM
It might just be throttling down the speed to keep heat down when not in use. See: Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology.

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Mobile IntelĀ® PentiumĀ® M Processors support Enhanced Intel SpeedStepĀ® technology, combining high speed performance with power-saving innovation. The benefit is a better match of performance to application demand. Intelligent power distribution focuses system power where the CPU needs it and automatically regulates power usage to preserve battery life.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: MrRaza on September 07, 2005, 12:06 AM
http://www.intel.com/technology/itj/2003/volume07issue02/art03_pentiumm/p10_speedstep.htm, so when I NEED the processor speed, it actally increases the speed at which my computer runs at, and then lowers it when system resources arent being used. Can I have the option of choosing a speed that can be set at a certain point all the time?
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: MyndFyre on September 07, 2005, 02:19 AM
Quote from: MrRaza on September 07, 2005, 12:06 AM
http://www.intel.com/technology/itj/2003/volume07issue02/art03_pentiumm/p10_speedstep.htm, so when I NEED the processor speed, it actally increases the speed at which my computer runs at, and then lowers it when system resources arent being used. Can I have the option of choosing a speed that can be set at a certain point all the time?
No.  This is done to prevent components from overheating.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: shout on September 08, 2005, 07:26 AM
Quote from: MrRaza on September 07, 2005, 12:06 AM
Can I have the option of choosing a speed that can be set at a certain point all the time?

Why would you want to do that?
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: Joe[x86] on September 08, 2005, 06:21 PM
Just a guess, but the program your using is meant for Intel Pentiums. The Mobile (M) chips are smaller, and slower. Your probably not going to get over 800MHz.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: MyndFyre on September 08, 2005, 06:49 PM
Quote from: Joex86] link=topic=12734.msg127446#msg127446 date=1126221678]
Just a guess, but the program your using is meant for Intel Pentiums. The Mobile (M) chips are smaller, and slower. Your probably not going to get over 800MHz.
Joe, they can't market a chip as 1.86GHz when it's only 798MHz.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: quasi-modo on September 08, 2005, 08:21 PM
I am using amd64 turion. When I am plugged in my clock is 1.6ghz, when I am not plugged in I am doing 800. On my laptop it is a power conservation thing and not a heat thing. It will upclock to 1.6 when on battery when the proc is under load, but it goes down to 8 when idle, but when plugged in it stays at 1.6 even when idle.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: MyndFyre on September 08, 2005, 08:24 PM
Quote from: quasi-modo on September 08, 2005, 08:21 PM
I am using amd64 turion. When I am plugged in my clock is 1.6ghz, when I am not plugged in I am doing 800. On my laptop it is a power conservation thing and not a heat thing.

That's a heat thing, too -- it can't run the fan as much if the power cord is not plugged in.  So, it has to run slower and cooler.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: Joe[x86] on September 09, 2005, 05:59 PM
QuoteJoe, they can't market a chip as 1.86GHz when it's only 798MHz.
Harr. Thought the program detected something on the chip that had its speed, or a chip name and switch()'d for its speed or something. My bad!
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: quasi-modo on September 11, 2005, 01:03 PM
Quote from: MyndFyre on September 08, 2005, 08:24 PM
Quote from: quasi-modo on September 08, 2005, 08:21 PM
I am using amd64 turion. When I am plugged in my clock is 1.6ghz, when I am not plugged in I am doing 800. On my laptop it is a power conservation thing and not a heat thing.

That's a heat thing, too -- it can't run the fan as much if the power cord is not plugged in.  So, it has to run slower and cooler.
True, I mean you could run the fan as much though, it would just eat up the battery real fast if they did though.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: Zorm on September 11, 2005, 02:01 PM
Quote from: MyndFyre on September 07, 2005, 02:19 AM
Quote from: MrRaza on September 07, 2005, 12:06 AM
http://www.intel.com/technology/itj/2003/volume07issue02/art03_pentiumm/p10_speedstep.htm, so when I NEED the processor speed, it actally increases the speed at which my computer runs at, and then lowers it when system resources arent being used. Can I have the option of choosing a speed that can be set at a certain point all the time?
No.  This is done to prevent components from overheating.

No its not.

Quote from: Intel
In Portable/Laptop mode, frequency and voltage changes depend on the application demand. This mode is the normal usage mode when the system is not connected to an AC power source. This mode demonstrates the effectiveness of combining the performance and power-awareness of the Pentium M processor with the energy-saving nature of the Enhanced Intel SpeedStep technology to provide end users with breakthrough mobile performance and extended battery life.

They all underclock to preserve battery life and not because of heat related reasons.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: quasi-modo on September 12, 2005, 01:34 AM
Though the two are connected because it will be hotter at a full clock, but then the fan has to run continuously, using even more power.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: shout on September 12, 2005, 07:16 AM
The power consumed by the fan would be trivial compared to some of the more power hungery components.
Title: Re: Problem with processor speed.
Post by: quasi-modo on September 12, 2005, 07:25 PM
Quote from: Shout on September 12, 2005, 07:16 AM
The power consumed by the fan would be trivial compared to some of the more power hungery components.
I agree, but I was referring to an earlier point made by MyndFyre