ATTN: Authors of the alleged Warcraft 3 code

[iago]

Ok, shut up everybody.  

Now back to the point:
Maddox wrote the code and did a lot of reversing
Telos worked on some of the key decoding reversing
I did a lot of reversing and identified a ton of Storm functions
TheMinistered did a lot of reversing with me
Finally, UserLoser identified the Sha-1 stuff and convined me to start helping.

All of us contributed, and none of us (probably) could have done it alone.  

[MyndFyre]

Ok, shut up everybody.  

Now back to the point:
Maddox wrote the code and did a lot of reversing
Telos worked on some of the key decoding reversing
I did a lot of reversing and identified a ton of Storm functions
TheMinistered did a lot of reversing with me
Finally, UserLoser identified the Sha-1 stuff and convined me to start helping.

All of us contributed, and none of us (probably) could have done it alone.  

Man, that blows.  I wish I could have gotten involved.    You've pretty much iterated about 90% of the competent non-vL people on the forums.  Even if I could reverse to a certain extent, the team has been taken!  

[Yoni]

Ok, shut up everybody.  

Now back to the point:
Maddox wrote the code and did a lot of reversing
Telos worked on some of the key decoding reversing
I did a lot of reversing and identified a ton of Storm functions
TheMinistered did a lot of reversing with me
Finally, UserLoser identified the Sha-1 stuff and convined me to start helping.

All of us contributed, and none of us (probably) could have done it alone.  

Ah, cool. We didn't either

[iago]

competent

TheMinistered is SO competant that he leaves VNC running while he's away for a week

But yeah, it was a neat project.  I really don't care about logging in with war3, I didn't add it to any of my bots or ever implement it properly.  All I wanted was to help figure it out.

[deadly7]

Just a noob question... HOW did you do it?

[UserLoser.]

Just a noob question... HOW did you do it?

I use IDA Pro.

[deadly7]

Once I learn some scripting I might get that disassembler..

[iago]

Once I learn some scripting I might get that disassembler..

Scripting is quite different from programming.  You have a lot to learn

[deadly7]

Well don't you learn scripting so you can do programming? [Did that sound as stupid to you as it did to me...]

[Yoni]

Well don't you learn scripting so you can do programming? [Did that sound as stupid to you as it did to me...]

No, you learn programming for that.

[MyndFyre]

Well don't you learn scripting so you can do programming? [Did that sound as stupid to you as it did to me...]

Yoni's harassments aside, I learned scripting before I learned programming: specifically, I learned JavaScript for HTML pages.

A good project to know if you're ready to start programming if you're a javascripter: write a client-side search engine using JavaScript.  

I didn't learn scripting so that I could move into programming though.  I learned scripting so that I could put together some kickass websites.  Things followed, though -- certain limitations on client-side scripting kept me from doing really great stuff.  So, I started getting into server-side programming, specifically ASP.  I was already familiar with Javascript, and since Microsoft has a ripoff version that they provide with ASP, I was already ahead of the game.

Shortly thereafter, I was hired at TGTSoft as an intern to tweak a few things on their website.  The company relocated about 6 months down the road, but one of the potential projects was for me to revamp their website using C#, so they hooked me up with Visual Studio .NET.

It took awhile to learn, but I have to say I think I'm doing pretty well.  

That said, if you want to end up programming, I would suggest starting with programming.  If you have a reason (like I did) to script, then script -- but down the line, it will be faster to learn programming by simply learning programming.

[Banana fanna fo fanna]

Myndfire I think it'd be fun..if you consider me competant that is

[MyndFyre]

Myndfire I think it'd be fun..if you consider me competant that is

You're a libertarian.  Of course you're competent.  

[pianka]

Wtf, stop deleting the posts dude, you're ruining our conversations...

[MyndFyre]

Wtf, stop deleting the posts dude, you're ruining our conversations...

Stop being such a moron.  You'll get over it.