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Re:why I don't post much in botdev

Started by Adron, June 07, 2004, 03:59 AM

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Spht

#15
I'm not exactly saying we should make an "advanced forum" and a "newbie forum."  Just the possibility of there being a separate forum for discussion of new and original ideas, and the other forum would have the -1 ping / displaying icons / CSB posts.

iago

There are new idea in bot development these days?  
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LordNevar

Zeller, It doesn't matter who posted it first. It only matters if people believe and agree on the same ideas.  :)

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Eli_1

#18
Seperating this forum sounds good in theory, but let's face it, people are stupid. Some people never use the search feature, some never check google, some don't check the documents section, some don't even know how to program.

The fact alone that we have people posting CSB related questions in the Visual Basic Programming Forum and visa versa ruins the point of having seperate forums so closely related.

It's inevitable that we'll end up seeing an increase in the number of off-topic posts because of the simple fact that so many people don't even bother to read. If the moderators are up to it, then by all means, do it -  if not, I don't think you should waste your time.

BaDDBLooD

Quote from: LordNevar on June 07, 2004, 05:54 PM
Good idea, break [Bot Development] down into sperate sections. Instead of having one big forum on it, have it sectional, like a specific forum for packet related questions, and maybe another for general discussion on bot idea's and designs, and so on..... That should cut down on the same questions being asked more than once.

I have to agree with lord nevar...

Break down BotDev into seperate but Equal sections
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Stealth

#20
Quote from: Spht on June 07, 2004, 06:12 PM
I'm not exactly saying we should make an "advanced forum" and a "newbie forum."  Just the possibility of there being a separate forum for discussion of new and original ideas, and the other forum would have the -1 ping / displaying icons / CSB posts.

This sounds like a good idea. I don't think separate sections for each topic are necessary, but the advanced "actual discussion" forum versus the "gimme code" forum is definitely a good move.
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BaDDBLooD

Quote from: Stealth on June 07, 2004, 10:45 PM
Quote from: Spht on June 07, 2004, 06:12 PM
I'm not exactly saying we should make an "advanced forum" and a "newbie forum."  Just the possibility of there being a separate forum for discussion of new and original ideas, and the other forum would have the -1 ping / displaying icons / CSB posts.

This sounds like a good idea. I don't think separate sections for each topic are necessary, but the advanced "actual discussion" forum versus the "gimme code" forum is definitely a good move.

THat is also a good idea
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Quote from: Stealth on June 07, 2004, 10:45 PM
Quote from: Spht on June 07, 2004, 06:12 PM
I'm not exactly saying we should make an "advanced forum" and a "newbie forum."  Just the possibility of there being a separate forum for discussion of new and original ideas, and the other forum would have the -1 ping / displaying icons / CSB posts.

This sounds like a good idea. I don't think separate sections for each topic are necessary, but the advanced "actual discussion" forum versus the "gimme code" forum is definitely a good move.

It doesn't sound like a good idea at all. There are no advanced bot development questions.
asdf.

UserLoser.

Quote from: Maddox on June 07, 2004, 10:52 PM
Quote from: Stealth on June 07, 2004, 10:45 PM
Quote from: Spht on June 07, 2004, 06:12 PM
I'm not exactly saying we should make an "advanced forum" and a "newbie forum."  Just the possibility of there being a separate forum for discussion of new and original ideas, and the other forum would have the -1 ping / displaying icons / CSB posts.

This sounds like a good idea. I don't think separate sections for each topic are necessary, but the advanced "actual discussion" forum versus the "gimme code" forum is definitely a good move.

It doesn't sound like a good idea at all. There are no advanced bot development questions.

There might be sometime in the future, with WoW.  Isn't Battle.net BotDev since it's not on Battle.net, but I guess it'd still fit under this topic

warz

Quote from: iago on June 07, 2004, 06:14 PM
There are new idea in bot development these days?  

Ofcourse not. I think it's a pointless idea. It'd just the same help people out being in the original bot dev forum than in a seperate bot dev forum.

Arta

Perhaps before we make another forum we should decide what an advanced topic might be.

LordNevar

Keep the BotDev forum, but make another forum for packet related questions only. Like the packets that are covered on bnetdocs, and ones that are not. Also on classes, and subclass designs based off those packets. All other non essential information can be placed in botdev, like bot design and how to's.

Ex1: [Packet Overviews] My 0x7D Isn't working, here is my code any feedback would be nice.

Ex2: [BOTDEV] How would I go about adding icons to a listview?

Just a thought, seems logical.

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Eli_1

Quote from: LordNevar on June 08, 2004, 08:53 AM
Ex2: [BOTDEV] How would I go about adding icons to a listview?

That's off-topic and should be moved to the Visual Basic Programming forum.  :P

Networks

A very long time ago I suggested that someone make a site that basically had everything ever posted on vL forums:

http://forum.valhallalegends.com/phpbbs/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=4954;start=0

I didn't mean loads of people to take code and simply and copy and paste I simply meant that what ever info that was provided here could've been made into a site which people could go to.

If the site had been made it could've cut down on CSB users and source stealers and newbs overall.

It's almost like discussions on IRC that have put into notepad and distributed as tutorials. Thus those of you who said they are sick of discussing the same thing 100 times it would be on the site once and be over with. Also bnetdocs is very information but is not the same thing as what I was trying to explain. I meant that we could take relavant posts in the topic so people can see where problems occured and what other people thought while trying to go through it.



Tuberload

Maybe you could create a separate bot development reference forum that doesn't allow users to post, just read. The idea being that if a moderator is willing to go through the current bot development forum and find all the original, worth-while threads and post them there. As more discussions worthy of the reference are finished they could be cleaned up and placed there as well. I think that could help limit the number of repeated questions being asked, at least for those of us willing to read.
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