Israel v Palestine

[MyndFyre]

Hate America, hate Israel, hate freedom, viva socialism.

Have you ever studied socialism? You couldn't really get more free than in a true socialist state. The concept is rather admirable. The problem, of course, lies in the fact that it's completely impossible to implement in a fair and honest fashion (numerous real-world failures attest to this).

Yes, I have studied it in-depth (a political science major I am).  Theoretically, you are correct.  However, do you see humans changing so that it will be so in practice?

[Maddox]

I believe the problem stems from a young age , ive seen news reports where children (Palestinian) where interviewed , and said they would glady give there lives for the "cause"

Excuse me but WTF is the "cause"

Who is to blame for that? i believe 2 key factors are at blame

(A) Parents? Like come on , last time i came home with a RPG Lanucher my mother grounded me for like 6 years? These kids on the other hand are encouraged to take up arms? why?

(B) Government? this is where the parents get it from , and they pass it on to there children and so forth. 1 big terrorist chain.

All the palestinians and Israelis need is a lock-in at the rec. center. I mean, come on.

[dxoigmn]

I believe the problem stems from a young age , ive seen news reports where children (Palestinian) where interviewed , and said they would glady give there lives for the "cause"

Excuse me but WTF is the "cause"

Who is to blame for that? i believe 2 key factors are at blame

(A) Parents? Like come on , last time i came home with a RPG Lanucher my mother grounded me for like 6 years? These kids on the other hand are encouraged to take up arms? why?

(B) Government? this is where the parents get it from , and they pass it on to there children and so forth. 1 big terrorist chain.

Perhaps you'd understand more if you actually lived there?  It's hard for Americans to understand why foreigners act the way they do.  Americans are so caught up in the "us Americans are right in our ways and customs" notion to the point where what everyone else does is "wrong."

[dxoigmn]

Hate America, hate Israel, hate freedom, viva socialism.

Have you ever studied socialism? You couldn't really get more free than in a true socialist state. The concept is rather admirable. The problem, of course, lies in the fact that it's completely impossible to implement in a fair and honest fashion (numerous real-world failures attest to this).

Many tribal societies have implemented a form of socialism, namely communism.  It is possible, but I think we're to indulged in the idea of property that it will be hard to implement a form of socialism.

[effect]

Perhaps you'd understand more if you actually lived there?  It's hard for Americans to understand why foreigners act the way they do.  Americans are so caught up in the "us Americans are right in our ways and customs" notion to the point where what everyone else does is "wrong."

I dont live in the United States

[dxoigmn]

Perhaps you'd understand more if you actually lived there?  It's hard for Americans to understand why foreigners act the way they do.  Americans are so caught up in the "us Americans are right in our ways and customs" notion to the point where what everyone else does is "wrong."

I dont live in the United States

Well then, sorry for making that assumption.  But I still think you exhibit those qualities I have described from what I see in Americans.

[effect]

Thats because i am a western pig dog , just like them.

[Yoni]

All the palestinians and Israelis need is a lock-in at the rec. center. I mean, come on.

Is you for real, man?!

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[Adron]

I like it how when Israel kills one Palestinian, it makes frontpage news, when an Arab goes into the middle of public place with a bomb strapped onto the chest taking out 200+ Israelies, it make's the 4th page.

Sure, that gimp on a wheel chair couldn't escape the 5 missiles launched at him, but atleast none of them killed civilians. Arabs simply hate all Israelies. Israelies only hate the ones who cause trouble (all of The Hammas). As well as anyone willing to strap a bomb to their chest and take a bus full of school kids out.

What are the death counts for either side?

[Tuberload]

Perhaps you'd understand more if you actually lived there?  It's hard for Americans to understand why foreigners act the way they do.  Americans are so caught up in the "us Americans are right in our ways and customs" notion to the point where what everyone else does is "wrong."

Well then, sorry for making that assumption.  But I still think you exhibit those qualities I have described from what I see in Americans.

There is a difference between having pride in your country and believing everyone else is wrong. It is amazing the US is the only country that has such a sense of national pride, and yet that makes others hate us so much. May I ask what country you live in? If it is not the US I don't see how you can make your assumptions.

Last time I checked the US was one of the most, if not the most, diverse country in the world. This leads to many different cultures and customs...

Edit: Fixed quote tags

[effect]

If your talking to me then i live in Australia , and no where in this topic have i ever called anybody wrong.

And my assumptions are based on what I see on the media , and what I make of it (of course the media is NEVER correct). But i know enought of the situation to form an oppinion for myself , as i belief everyone else here has.

[Tuberload]

If your talking to me then i live in Australia , and no where in this topic have i ever called anybody wrong.

And my assumptions are based on what I see on the media , and what I make of it (of course the media is NEVER correct). But i know enought of the situation to form an oppinion for myself , as i belief everyone else here has.

Plase look at who I quoted... I am talking to dxoigmn. Also, I never said you can't form an opinion.

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[effect]

I asked because , i said "Im not from the United States" , then u qouted that and also asked "So what country are you from" , just a small misjudgement , many apologys

[Tuberload]

I asked because , i said "Im not from the United States" , then u qouted that and also asked "So what country are you from" , just a small misjudgement , many apologys

I quoted everything dxoigmn said, and it contained a post of yours. I fixed my quote tags, so I am sorry for any confusion that may have caused.

[dxoigmn]

Perhaps you'd understand more if you actually lived there?  It's hard for Americans to understand why foreigners act the way they do.  Americans are so caught up in the "us Americans are right in our ways and customs" notion to the point where what everyone else does is "wrong."

Well then, sorry for making that assumption.  But I still think you exhibit those qualities I have described from what I see in Americans.

There is a difference between having pride in your country and believing everyone else is wrong. It is amazing the US is the only country that has such a sense of national pride, and yet that makes others hate us so much. May I ask what country you live in? If it is not the US I don't see how you can make your assumptions.

Last time I checked the US was one of the most, if not the most, diverse country in the world. This leads to many different cultures and customs...

Edit: Fixed quote tags

I live in the US...in Los Angeles, California and a lot of people that I've come across are that way.  They may not consciously make that choice, but in they way they talk and carry themselves they do.  Of course, this isn't everyone in the US but a lot of Americans are this way, atleast where I am from.  I think this is a direct result of pride, since people love to twist it and use it when necessary.  Now my question, how can you say "the US is the only country that has such a sense of national pride"?