Does anyone have HL2

iago · October 26, 2003, 05:17 PM

Quote from: kamakazie on October 26, 2003, 04:59 PM
Quote from: Mitosis on October 26, 2003, 04:50 PM
Um if you didnt know, Valve leaked the source like all over the net. So I gots it.

I doubt Valve leaked their own source code.

Obviously it was somebody at valve.

Probe · October 26, 2003, 05:39 PM

yes it has to be someone from valve, there is no way they would leave the source code on a computer with internet accses

Grok · October 26, 2003, 06:31 PM

It was not leaked, it was released into the public domain.

j0k3r · October 26, 2003, 06:44 PM

Quote from: Grok on October 26, 2003, 06:31 PM
It was not leaked, it was released into the public domain.

... It boggles the mind why you would say that. Why would Valve leak something that was supposed to be game of the year, on a brand new engine that kicks the ass of anything currently out there, to the public and competitors? The loss for this leak is estimated at $66.7Million(oy).

Nobody knows how it was leaked, the most popular rumor is that someone hacked into an employee's e-mail that had the source.

Hitmen · October 26, 2003, 06:48 PM

Maybe he was thinking quake 2?

Naem · October 26, 2003, 06:55 PM

Quote from: j0k3r on October 26, 2003, 06:44 PM
Quote from: Grok on October 26, 2003, 06:31 PM
It was not leaked, it was released into the public domain.
Nobody knows how it was leaked, the most popular rumor is that someone hacked into an employee's e-mail that had the source.

That isn't a rumor, it's the truth. Gabe Newell, co-founder of VALVe, claims that various logs show modified trojans throughout their network. He believes the attacker infiltrated the network from a buffer overflow exploit in Outlook.

j0k3r · October 26, 2003, 07:08 PM

Yeah that's what I read too.

Grok · October 26, 2003, 07:29 PM

One of those was released by the maker. Not sure which. If I was wrong, sorry. But one of them did a port to .NET and released the source.

Skywing · October 26, 2003, 07:30 PM

Quote from: Grok on October 26, 2003, 07:29 PM
One of those was released by the maker. Not sure which. If I was wrong, sorry. But one of them did a port to .NET and released the source.

The Quake II engine was released into the public domain by id software several years ago, and somebody else ported it to .NET. Half-Life II was stolen from VALVe software.

iago · October 27, 2003, 02:09 AM

Incidently, I doubt they were emailing the source around.

Skywing · October 27, 2003, 07:03 AM

Quote from: iago on October 27, 2003, 02:09 AM
Incidently, I doubt they were emailing the source around.

The story is that Valve was slow to roll out some important security fixes for Outlook. Eventually somebody used said flaws to install a trojan and used that to gain account passwords in order to steal the code.

iago · October 27, 2003, 12:32 PM

Quote from: Skywing on October 27, 2003, 07:03 AM
Quote from: iago on October 27, 2003, 02:09 AM
Incidently, I doubt they were emailing the source around.
The story is that Valve was slow to roll out some important security fixes for Outlook. Eventually somebody used said flaws to install a trojan and used that to gain account passwords in order to steal the code.

That makes a lot more sense, but I was mostly responding directly to what j0k3r said, that somebody hacked into their email which contained it.

If it WAS an outside job, which it seems to be, I'm very, very impressed.