Re: Open source C++ Bot

[Warrior]

He's right, use C# instead

[iNsaNe]

Yeah, I'm back to C#. I'm much further with it in C# anyways but I just thought I'd try out C++ to learn it a little.

[Banana fanna fo fanna]

Learning C++ does not involved managed .NET C++.

[Warrior]

Yeah, I'm back to C#. I'm much further with it in C# anyways but I just thought I'd try out C++ to learn it a little.

It's like going from a Supermodel to a Hooker. C++ is a nasty language, only the weak use it.

Are you weak?

[Don Cullen]

I beg to digress. Using C++ is a good way to ensure portability between platforms, such as between Windows and Linux. To date, C# isn't quite portable for the Linux platform, unless one makes use of Mono. And even then, Mono is still in the developmental stages. Until Mono becomes fully developed, C++ is the best option for developers. Managed .NET C++ however isn't a good option, because that'd still require the use of Mono if one wanted to port it to the Linux platform.

[warz]

interpreted - omglol

[Camel]

Yeah, I'm back to C#. I'm much further with it in C# anyways but I just thought I'd try out C++ to learn it a little.

It's like going from a Supermodel to a Hooker. C++ is a nasty language, only the weak use it.

Are you weak?

No, it has its place. If you're writing an operating system, or a high performance DBMS, you should use C/C++. In any other case, you should use a higher level language.

[Don Cullen]

No, it has its place. If you're writing an operating system, or a high performance DBMS, you should use C/C++.

Or also in cases of portability.

[Warrior]

Yeah, I'm back to C#. I'm much further with it in C# anyways but I just thought I'd try out C++ to learn it a little.

It's like going from a Supermodel to a Hooker. C++ is a nasty language, only the weak use it.

Are you weak?

No, it has its place. If you're writing an operating system, or a high performance DBMS, you should use C/C++. In any other case, you should use a higher level language.

No, it has its place. If you're writing an operating system, or a high performance DBMS, you should use C/C++.

Or also in cases of portability.

C/C++ is only portable if you code in a portable manner. This includes using cross platform UI kits and the like. It may be portable in the sense that it has no runtime but it's certainly not a compile once run anywhere type situation.

[Warrior]

Yeah, I'm back to C#. I'm much further with it in C# anyways but I just thought I'd try out C++ to learn it a little.

It's like going from a Supermodel to a Hooker. C++ is a nasty language, only the weak use it.

Are you weak?

No, it has its place. If you're writing an operating system, or a high performance DBMS, you should use C/C++. In any other case, you should use a higher level language.

This was mostly a joke, but I agree with you here for the most part. I really yearn for the day where C/C++ is restricted to low level programming, and with some higher level code earlier on in the kernel. The advantages are there, both in Java and C#.

Let's make stuff modern imo.

[Krush[LM]]

Yeah, I'm back to C#. I'm much further with it in C# anyways but I just thought I'd try out C++ to learn it a little.

It's like going from a Supermodel to a Hooker. C++ is a nasty language, only the weak use it.

Are you weak?

Most games are coded in C/C++ so I wouldn't call it weak.

[warz]

Most games are coded in C/C++ so I wouldn't call it weak.

I'm not sure how much validity that holds now days, though.

[Krush[LM]]

Most games are coded in C/C++ so I wouldn't call it weak.

I'm not sure how much validity that holds now days, though.

Well at my company and at all the companies I talk to they use mostly C but sometimes limited C++.  I know Sony is using C/C++ and Nintendo does it for DS (one of my current titles).

[MyndFyre]

Most games are coded in C/C++ so I wouldn't call it weak.

I'm not sure how much validity that holds now days, though.

Pretty much all major titles are written in C or C++.  Even nowadays.

There are a lot of things that C# simply can't do - for instance, let's look at using SSE.  C# really can't express any way to even hint at using it. 

C++ also has support libraries for intrinsic garbage collection (it's not terribly hard to do).  C# has a much cleaner syntax, but C++ can be much more expressive; for instance, it allows for partial specialization with templates, and it also permits non-type parameters for templates. 

If I had the option, I might choose D as an alternative to C or C++.  For an indie title, C# might be a viable option.  But for a commercial title, I'm not feeling it when it comes to C#.

[Warrior]

Most games are coded in C/C++ so I wouldn't call it weak.

I'm not sure how much validity that holds now days, though.

Pretty much all major titles are written in C or C++.  Even nowadays.

There are a lot of things that C# simply can't do - for instance, let's look at using SSE.  C# really can't express any way to even hint at using it. 

C++ also has support libraries for intrinsic garbage collection (it's not terribly hard to do).  C# has a much cleaner syntax, but C++ can be much more expressive; for instance, it allows for partial specialization with templates, and it also permits non-type parameters for templates. 

If I had the option, I might choose D as an alternative to C or C++.  For an indie title, C# might be a viable option.  But for a commercial title, I'm not feeling it when it comes to C#.

I'm not feeling you.