BNLS needs a method to stop idiots..

[Skeptical]

Yeah so I got this message on aim today, figured id go ahead and share the conversation. Didnt really see an area fitting for this other than here so I posted it. If its in the wrong place move it please.

I had scanned the bot a long time ago so I knew it was backdoored from the start.

nesucks2 (12:38:54 PM): http://geno.bot.nu/ -- Genocide 1.2c (comes with 400 working sc keys!)
Not Skeptical (12:39:04 PM): uses BNLS?
nesucks2 (12:39:08 PM): yup
Not Skeptical (12:39:13 PM): you're a dumbass
nesucks2 (12:41:28 PM): http://geno.bot.nu/ -- Genocide 1.2c (comes with 400 working sc keys!)
nesucks2 (12:41:31 PM): did u dl it yet?
Not Skeptical (12:42:11 PM): no, and im not going to, and anyone that does is a dumbass
nesucks2 (12:42:18 PM): y not
Not Skeptical (12:42:27 PM): #1, it uses BNLS
Not Skeptical (12:43:00 PM): and id rather not massload on someones server whos making an effort to help the battle.net community
nesucks2 (12:43:11 PM): ROFL
nesucks2 (12:43:14 PM): who gives a shit
nesucks2 (12:43:32 PM): u just send a couple thousand packets
nesucks2 (12:43:33 PM): to bnls
Not Skeptical (12:43:43 PM): ....
Not Skeptical (12:44:16 PM): let me tell you how cool you are
Not Skeptical (12:44:19 PM): not very
nesucks2 (12:44:32 PM): 400 working sc keys
nesucks2 (12:44:40 PM): the bot comes with 400 working sc keys....
Not Skeptical (12:44:51 PM): i dont want to join your botnet
Not Skeptical (12:44:53 PM): no thanks
Not Skeptical (12:45:02 PM): you're an idiot
Not Skeptical (12:45:15 PM): and because of your awesome source ripping abilities
Not Skeptical (12:45:37 PM): you're just pushing the idea skywing could have to make BNLS private
nesucks2 (12:46:00 PM): ROFL
nesucks2 (12:46:02 PM): no im not
Not Skeptical (12:46:06 PM): how are you not
Not Skeptical (12:46:23 PM): he'lll just take it down
nesucks2 (12:46:24 PM): LOL
nesucks2 (12:46:31 PM): did u see the 1k+ load last nite?
nesucks2 (12:46:34 PM): :-)
nesucks2 (12:46:42 PM): he needs to shut the fuck up
Not Skeptical (12:46:46 PM): LOL
Not Skeptical (12:46:52 PM): skywing needs to shutup
Not Skeptical (12:47:01 PM): he did all that programming so you could load 1k+
nesucks2 (12:47:06 PM): good
Not Skeptical (12:47:12 PM): and you're dissing on him
Not Skeptical (12:47:15 PM): you're cool man
nesucks2 (12:47:16 PM): i dont give a shit
Not Skeptical (12:48:30 PM): i just find it funny how you condone ruining a free service when you yourself are using it
nesucks2 (12:48:38 PM): no
nesucks2 (12:48:52 PM): i neither condone or condemn it since the free service is an entity
Not Skeptical (12:49:10 PM): apparently you do condone it since you're doing it
nesucks2 (12:49:24 PM): i dont forgive a thing
nesucks2 (12:49:27 PM): i just use it
nesucks2 (12:49:33 PM): just like i use a chair
Not Skeptical (12:49:55 PM): ok so you hit your kids to make them be good
Not Skeptical (12:50:04 PM): but beating them everyday for fun is also neccisary
nesucks2 (12:50:05 PM): lol
Not Skeptical (12:50:09 PM): ?
nesucks2 (12:50:15 PM): thats different
Not Skeptical (12:50:20 PM): thats what you're doing
Not Skeptical (12:50:21 PM): exactly
nesucks2 (12:50:21 PM): becuse they aren't just things
nesucks2 (12:50:22 PM): no
nesucks2 (12:50:28 PM): the thing doesn't have life
nesucks2 (12:50:36 PM): and doesn't react
Not Skeptical (12:50:54 PM): its someones creation, someones creation in which they can take down at any time due to abuse
nesucks2 (12:51:00 PM): so
Not Skeptical (12:51:05 PM): and what are you doing
Not Skeptical (12:51:07 PM): abusing it
nesucks2 (12:51:08 PM): i dont care
Not Skeptical (12:51:09 PM): therefore
nesucks2 (12:51:17 PM): its intrepeted as abuse
Not Skeptical (12:51:18 PM): you condone beating your kids everyday for fun
nesucks2 (12:51:22 PM): I intrepete as using it
Not Skeptical (12:51:30 PM): using it
nesucks2 (12:51:34 PM): intrepet*
Not Skeptical (12:51:34 PM): lol
nesucks2 (12:51:42 PM): damnspelling -.-
Not Skeptical (12:51:53 PM): l2uthless chat uses it, because it does specifically what its suppose to
nesucks2 (12:52:07 PM): rofl
nesucks2 (12:52:11 PM): fuck chatbots
nesucks2 (12:52:14 PM): spambots are good
nesucks2 (12:52:17 PM): i got
nesucks2 (12:52:19 PM): 200 loaded on east
nesucks2 (12:52:21 PM): now loading CR
Not Skeptical (12:52:24 PM): wow
Not Skeptical (12:52:27 PM): you're leet skeet huh?
Not Skeptical (12:52:44 PM): it wont last long, with people like you around
nesucks2 (12:52:46 PM): shit i loaded on war3
nesucks2 (12:52:49 PM): to risky
nesucks2 (12:53:10 PM): if bnls is down
nesucks2 (12:53:15 PM): ill just create local hashing
Not Skeptical (12:53:19 PM): LOL
Not Skeptical (12:53:19 PM): LOL
Not Skeptical (12:53:54 PM): if you can then fucking do it and dont abuse someone elses shit whom is making an effort to help a community in which he takes very little part in
nesucks2 (12:54:06 PM): naw
nesucks2 (12:54:11 PM): i'lll rather use bnls
Not Skeptical (12:54:20 PM): because you can't do local hashing
nesucks2 (12:54:25 PM): yes i can
nesucks2 (12:54:31 PM): its damn easy
Not Skeptical (12:54:39 PM): PMAC doesnt work anymore idiot
nesucks2 (12:54:45 PM): IX86
nesucks2 (12:54:49 PM): hashing
Not Skeptical (12:54:58 PM): sure, if its "damn" easy
Not Skeptical (12:55:11 PM): then do it you lieing sack of shit
nesucks2 (12:55:16 PM): rofl
nesucks2 (12:55:19 PM): naw
Not Skeptical (12:55:22 PM): and quit relying on someone elses work
nesucks2 (12:55:29 PM): im not relying on someone elses work
Not Skeptical (12:55:35 PM): how are you not?
nesucks2 (12:55:43 PM): because
nesucks2 (12:55:47 PM): genocide is made from me
Not Skeptical (12:55:56 PM): and it uses BNLS
Not Skeptical (12:55:58 PM): which is made by..
nesucks2 (12:56:01 PM): no
nesucks2 (12:56:10 PM): bnls
nesucks2 (12:56:24 PM): it sends eletric signals to bnls
nesucks2 (12:56:29 PM): and bnls uses itself
nesucks2 (12:56:32 PM): and sends them back
Not Skeptical (12:56:51 PM): using what from BNLS?
nesucks2 (12:56:57 PM): umm
nesucks2 (12:57:02 PM): your using the tcp/ip protocal
nesucks2 (12:57:07 PM): stop using someone elses work!
nesucks2 (12:57:11 PM): ur using windows
nesucks2 (12:57:17 PM): stop using someone elses work!
Not Skeptical (12:57:21 PM): lol
nesucks2 (12:57:21 PM): go make ur own os
Not Skeptical (12:57:23 PM): im not abusing it
Not Skeptical (12:57:27 PM): im using it as i should
nesucks2 (12:57:29 PM): what is abuse then?
Not Skeptical (12:57:42 PM): wow
Not Skeptical (12:57:54 PM): you're amazing
nesucks2 (12:58:09 PM): what you think is abuse is your opinion
nesucks2 (12:58:38 PM): v
nesucks2 (12:58:39 PM): http://geno.bot.nu/ -- Genocide 1.2c (comes with 400 working sc keys!)
Not Skeptical (12:58:46 PM): using something or someone in a method in which they're not suppose to be used
nesucks2 (12:58:57 PM): yeah
nesucks2 (12:58:59 PM): so
nesucks2 (12:59:01 PM): using bots on bnet
nesucks2 (12:59:06 PM): bots aren't supposed go on bnet
Not Skeptical (12:59:08 PM): ...
nesucks2 (12:59:10 PM): so ur abusing bnet
nesucks2 (12:59:20 PM): yet thats ok, since you believe that its not abuse
Not Skeptical (12:59:23 PM): obviously
nesucks2 (12:59:36 PM): your opinion thinks loading bots on bnet isn't abuse
Not Skeptical (12:59:43 PM): i think it is abuse
nesucks2 (1:00:08 PM): so what?
Not Skeptical (1:00:26 PM): according to the TOS of bnet loading bots is abuse
Not Skeptical (1:00:27 PM): but
Not Skeptical (1:00:40 PM): we break that anyways, who doesnt, the point is
nesucks2 (1:00:51 PM): what are the consequences that would occur since you believe its abuse?
Not Skeptical (1:01:04 PM): you're absuing something ran by someone like you and me whom is making an effort to help the battle.net community
nesucks2 (1:01:15 PM): i dont give a fuck
Not Skeptical (1:01:21 PM): point proven
Not Skeptical (1:01:29 PM): so stop trying to justify you're childish antics
nesucks2 (1:01:37 PM): no
Not Skeptical (1:01:52 PM): because their is no justification for what you're doing
nesucks2 (1:02:19 PM): yes there is
Not Skeptical (1:02:21 PM): you're taking someones time and effort to help people im sure he could care less about and throwing it in his face
nesucks2 (1:02:25 PM): its more my personal entertainment
nesucks2 (1:02:32 PM): good
nesucks2 (1:02:53 PM): i should be sending mass cdkey checks to bnls
nesucks2 (1:03:11 PM): fake cdkeys of course
Not Skeptical (1:03:20 PM): might as well
Not Skeptical (1:04:29 PM): so you find personal entertainment in ruining peoples chatting abilities on bnet just to see 200 accounts logged on to a network that 99% of the american population knows nothing of
Not Skeptical (1:04:49 PM): sounds like you got alot of time
nesucks2 (1:04:53 PM): no
nesucks2 (1:04:57 PM): 300 accounts logged on
Not Skeptical (1:05:14 PM): ok 300, answer the question
nesucks2 (1:05:23 PM): sure its entertainment
Not Skeptical (1:05:45 PM): im gonna go ahead n post this on vl forums now
nesucks2 (1:05:50 PM): bitch
nesucks2 (1:05:53 PM): haahaaaaaa
nesucks2 (1:06:26 PM): u think i give a shit?
Not Skeptical (1:06:27 PM): bitch, im just doing whats right for the community and for all the people that would download your shit bot to join your botnet
nesucks2 (1:06:36 PM): http://geno.bot.nu/ -- Genocide 1.2c (comes with 400 working sc keys!)
nesucks2 (1:06:38 PM): dl it now
Not Skeptical (1:06:48 PM): like i said
Not Skeptical (1:06:54 PM): id rather not join your botnet
nesucks2 (1:06:55 PM): ur noob if ur not a warrer
Not Skeptical (1:07:05 PM): lol..
Not Skeptical (1:07:40 PM): i dont care about people warring, if thats your thing thats your thing..but don't trojan people, and don't use other people's shit to do it
nesucks2 (1:07:49 PM): ROfl
nesucks2 (1:08:00 PM): to scared to trojan people?
nesucks2 (1:08:02 PM): noob
nesucks2 (1:08:12 PM): to scared to use other people's shit?
nesucks2 (1:08:15 PM): scared noob
Not Skeptical (1:08:25 PM): how am i scared to use other peoples shit
Not Skeptical (1:08:29 PM): i use windows
Not Skeptical (1:08:31 PM): remember
nesucks2 (1:08:31 PM): how u think i got 350 working war3 keys ;-)

Yeah, pretty rediculous huh..

[UserLoser]

I heard Skywing was already adding stuff to block massloaders like this in the next revision

[Skeptical]

by god i hope so, I hope its out fast. This isnt the only mass loader out their either that uses BNLS.

[Dale]

I heard Skywing was already adding stuff to block massloaders like this in the next revision

Couldn't he just block an IP that has over 8+ open connections to battle.net?

Block as in, don't allow the login.

[l)ragon]

I heard Skywing was already adding stuff to block massloaders like this in the next revision

Couldn't he just block an IP that has over 8+ open connections to battle.net?

Block as in, don't allow the login.

Would be better if he just reenabled the auth system.

[DeTaiLs]

There is also a new flood bot that is out that is doing like 500 floods per min, That has to be alot worse for bnls because it's doing like 9 connections per second I am supprised bnls hasent crashed yet.

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[Yegg]

I heard Skywing was already adding stuff to block massloaders like this in the next revision

Couldn't he just block an IP that has over 8+ open connections to battle.net?

Block as in, don't allow the login.

Not if the bot connects to proxies.

[Hdx]

I in all honesty think BNLS should have restrictions. I jsut don't know of a good way to go implementing it.

Couldn't he just block an IP that has over 8+ open connections to battle.net?

Its REALLY easy to setup a single connection to BNLS to do all of your logins.

Would be better if he just reenabled the auth system.

This would be great, but it would cause a head ace trying to keep every bot account orginized.
Which is why i think he removed it in the 1st place.
If he does implement anything, I would like to know.
Also if anyone here has any suggestions on a effective system, let me know. I would love to add anti-abuse mesures to JBLS so that when the mesures are released on BNLS massers can't jsut go use JBLS
~-~(HDX)~-~

[topaz]

If it's done via Botnet, and various valued members are given limited access to modify accounts, it wouldn't be much of a bother. There'd be a flurry of activity the first few weeks when accounts are given, and then it wouldn't mean much. It would be simple to graph how many connections are made per day per week and ban/remove access from suspects.

[Newby]

Haha. People still mass load?

[MyndFyre]

Haha. People still mass load?

It's all the rage if you're 12.

[Mystical]

   I think the auth accounts was a good idea back in the day, helps keep track of whats going on as well, if some reason he decided to or even thinks about putting something like that back into BNLS, i'm requesting my account now. lol =]

Username: mystical
Password: bnls

j/p

[Wolf]

I heard Skywing was already adding stuff to block massloaders like this in the next revision

Couldn't he just block an IP that has over 8+ open connections to battle.net?

Block as in, don't allow the login.

Not if the bot connects to proxies.

You know I was just kind of thinking of something, you know how some IRC servers scan you to see if port 1080 or 1050 (I can't remember which port it was) is open? Could bnls be setup in the same way to detect that open port, if so just simiply prevent it's connection?

[topaz]

Useless. Proxies can use almost any available port (2^16 - 1) and aren't confined to just 1080 and 1050.

[Dale]

True, but majority of the retarded massloaders, are 12, like somone said, and they're stupid...Chances are they use port 1080..., No you're not going to stop all flooders/loaders, but it'd put a lot out of bussiness for the moment...

(I've been out of battle.net dev, for a while now, so bare with me)

Also, Why not add an unique token, the computer has to send to the BNLS server? each computer has to have their own individual token, if that token has say 8+ logins at the same time, then disallow anymore from that computer until a connection is dropped?