Help with a command...

[MyndFyre]

Basically, it means not... (In this sense, it means anything but.)

More specifically, it is the binary operator which means "not equals to."  It is parallel of the != operator in C-based languages.

[FaDeS]

Well, yes, MyndFyre once again is the VB programmer, making me the "trainee"... Anyways, you saw my thoughts on your code example, and my code, how do I get it to function?

[shout]

You need to have method "blah blah timer_TickCount()". Then you must call that function you made, except without the "Sub TimerWhatnot".

[MyndFyre]

Well, yes, MyndFyre once again is the VB programmer

Don't accuse me of that!

[FaDeS]

Visual Basic programmer... Sorry for throwing that one your way, what I meant to say, was "God of all things programming"... My bad, once again...

[shout]

God of all things programming...?

Wow MyndFyre, you sure are 1337!

[MyndFyre]

Visual Basic programmer... Sorry for throwing that one your way, what I meant to say, was "God of all things programming"... My bad, once again...

Hehehe....  That wasn't what I was looking for.  I try to shirk praise.  But you're apparently not familiar with the generally-negative stigma carried by VB. 

[FaDeS]

I retract my last statement... not the "God of all things programming", but the "God of all things grammatically correct"... That, my friends, is how you should describe MyndFyre... And oh yeah, thank everybody (But mainly the grammar wizard) for your help, and now my bot is down the drain because I was owned by a worm, and had to reformat... So bye bye progress, hello regression (By the way, this is a very VERY loose use of this word, but it does fit...)... Anyways, thanks, and when I come back with another simple VB6 question, you can all rage at me for being a newb once again... Until then... This one's for you MyndFyre... "i r teh l3av1ngg 4 n0w... bi!!!!!!11!!!!!1eleven1!!!!!11111111"

[CrAz3D]

Until then... This one's for you MyndFyre... "i r teh l3av1ngg 4 n0w... bi!!!!!!11!!!!!1eleven1!!!!!11111111"

I like the "eleven"....VERY nice touch.

Why is everyone so insistent that VB is SO horrible & that CSB is basically the devil's code child?... I don't think that they are THAT bad.  Sure VB maybe not run as well & CSB is "newb", but ALL people are "newbs" @ one point or another.  Poor VB & CSB.

Come back sometime FaDeSexclamation

[Zakath]

The reason is simply because the "newbs" gravitate to VB & CSB. If they were only used by people who were knowledgable of their limitations and where they were properly usable, nobody would have as much of a problem.

When people post incredibly badly written code in C++ or C#, they get harassed for it just as much. It simply doesn't happen as often, since very few "newbs" bother to try writing anything in those more advanced languages.

[shout]

My advice: Start over. If anything, your code will be better than the first time you wrote it. Unless your brain was owned by a worm as well.

[CrAz3D]

My advice: Start over. If anything, your code will be better than the first time you wrote it. Unless your brain was owned by a worm as well.

Heck yes!... I just restarted my current bot project from scratch, it is coming along QUITE nicely for the 5-6 hours of work I put in to it.  It can connect & it reads all the info (access userdb, login info, bot info, & command access lists) from a nicely organized access database.  I'm WAY liking it so far.

[Zakath]

Ewww, access database. I don't really see the point in using a large-scale database for a project like this, but eh?

[MyndFyre]

The reason is simply because the "newbs" gravitate to VB & CSB. If they were only used by people who were knowledgable of their limitations and where they were properly usable, nobody would have as much of a problem.

When people post incredibly badly written code in C++ or C#, they get harassed for it just as much. It simply doesn't happen as often, since very few "newbs" bother to try writing anything in those more advanced languages.

/signed

My advice: Start over. If anything, your code will be better than the first time you wrote it. Unless your brain was owned by a worm as well.

/signed

Hehe, yes FaDeS, I appreciated your leet-speak, particularly the "eleven" inside.  It made a grumpy guy smile. 

Personally, the reason I dislike VB in general is, I suppose, the development environments available for it are shoddy.  VB6's IDE isn't particularly nice, and, while the IDE features of VS7 are nice, VB still seems cluttered.  I can't put my finger on it; perhaps it's everything being capitalized, like the obnoxious person Who Types Each Word In A Sentence With A Capital Letter, Who You Want To Just Shoot On Messenger Because It Pisses You Off.

That gives me a new thesis idea -- I could bring computer science and psychology together!  Does seeing constant capitalization on keywords cause more fatigue than an all-lowercase language?

Additionally, I think VB is verbose.  For example, there is a VB7 keyword "Overloads."  C# and C++ allow overloading automatically.  Consider the following class definition:

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// C#
public class Something
{
  public virtual void A();
  public virtual void A(string blah);
}

// C++
class CSomething
{
  public:
    virtual void A();
    virtual void A(char *blah);
}

' VB
Public Class Something
  Public Overridable Overloads Sub A()
  Public Overridable Overloads Sub A(ByVal blah As String)
End Class
}

I mean, I just want to pull out my hair at that last VB class definition.  C++ is easily the shortest one, but C#'s isn't particularly longer -- maybe 4 or 5 keystrokes -- but it just hurts to look at.  *shrug*

[edit] Since you mentioned my grammar, I just got my final paper back for another class.  There are a few typographical errors, and the end of a paragraph where I meant to continue on about something, most likely due to the fact that I was up until 4:00 am typing it.  I got an A- on the paper, which proves one thing: grammar is so ingrained in my head that, even half-unconscious, I do it correctly.  The paper is here: Rational or Irrational: Kim Jong-Il and North Korea (first draft, the one I got an A- on )

[Dyndrilliac]

CSB is basically the devil's code child?

Lol. That is with out a doubt the funniest thing I have read on the Bot Dev board. I particularly got a kick out of that.

@MyndFyre: Wow, C# looks cool. Looks a lot like Java I should pick up VS.Net 2003 or something.

Anyhoo, I don't think Visual Basic allows you to create classes like that. I believe you have to use the natively functioning "Class Modules" to create classes, as that's the only way I was taught to do it. It's the closest thing to an OOP-Style Object in the programming sense that Visual Basic has.