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Quote from: The-Rabid-Lord on December 09, 2003, 11:10 AM
they cant tax something you can grow.

tobacco.

Quote from: K on December 09, 2003, 11:53 AM

Quote from: The-Rabid-Lord on December 09, 2003, 11:10 AM
they cant tax something you can grow.

tobacco.

Exactly what I was going to say!


Grok - I don't know how your crazy country works, but up here car insurance is controlled by the government and we have to pay for it if we want to drive.

Quote from: iago on December 09, 2003, 12:32 PM

Quote from: K on December 09, 2003, 11:53 AM

Quote from: The-Rabid-Lord on December 09, 2003, 11:10 AM
they cant tax something you can grow.

tobacco.

Grok - I don't know how your crazy country works, but up here car insurance is controlled by the government and we have to pay for it if we want to drive.

That, or prove that you have $200K stashed away in a bank.

Quote from: Eibro on December 09, 2003, 01:30 PM

Quote from: iago on December 09, 2003, 12:32 PM

Quote from: K on December 09, 2003, 11:53 AM

Quote from: The-Rabid-Lord on December 09, 2003, 11:10 AM
they cant tax something you can grow.

tobacco.

Grok - I don't know how your crazy country works, but up here car insurance is controlled by the government and we have to pay for it if we want to drive.

That, or prove that you have $200K stashed away in a bank.

I don't remember that law..

QuoteFinancial responsibility may be established in either of the following ways:
1) by carrying public liability and property damage automobile insurance in the required amount.
2) by depositing a bond, cash, or securities to the total amount of $200,000 with the provincial treasurer.

Quote from: Eibro on December 09, 2003, 02:39 PM

QuoteFinancial responsibility may be established in either of the following ways:
1) by carrying public liability and property damage automobile insurance in the required amount.
2) by depositing a bond, cash, or securities to the total amount of $200,000 with the provincial treasurer.

I can quote lies, too.  But it's more convincing if you cite a source.

Quote from: K on December 09, 2003, 11:53 AM
tobacco.

Sorry i live in britain and it is really hard to get the right temperatures so we dont grow it here.

Quote from: iago on December 08, 2003, 04:40 PM
So crime goes down overall, not just for cartheft but for other stuff too, but not for the right reason.  I would submit that you can't use the fact that it reduces crime in other areas for your argument since this can happen for other reasons.

I can use the fact that it reduces crime in other areas for my argument and leave it up to you to show that that would happen for other reasons in my case. In your case, it's easy enough to point at the fact that more people who don't choose to steal cars will be suffering from their cars being gone. Your good effects still imply that a constant worth of money will be stolen, although it will no longer be illegal.

Quote from: The-Rabid-Lord on December 09, 2003, 03:50 PM

Quote from: K on December 09, 2003, 11:53 AM
tobacco.

Sorry i live in britain and it is really hard to get the right temperatures so we dont grow it here.

Then I doubt you would be able to grow marijuana there, either.  Although you could easily grow both indoors.

Quote from: iago on December 09, 2003, 03:31 PM

Quote from: Eibro on December 09, 2003, 02:39 PM

QuoteFinancial responsibility may be established in either of the following ways:
1) by carrying public liability and property damage automobile insurance in the required amount.
2) by depositing a bond, cash, or securities to the total amount of $200,000 with the provincial treasurer.

I can quote lies, too.  But it's more convincing if you cite a source.

Screw you.
http://www.gov.ns.ca/snsmr/rmv/licence/suspend.asp

Quote from: iago on December 09, 2003, 06:03 PMAlthough you could easily grow both indoors.

u can buy tobbacco leagaly and it would cost more to grow it at home where as u cant get pot down the off licence.

Quote from: iago on December 09, 2003, 03:31 PM

Quote from: Eibro on December 09, 2003, 02:39 PM

QuoteFinancial responsibility may be established in either of the following ways:
1) by carrying public liability and property damage automobile insurance in the required amount.
2) by depositing a bond, cash, or securities to the total amount of $200,000 with the provincial treasurer.

I can quote lies, too.  But it's more convincing if you cite a source.

Bad form, iago.  Makes the rest of us not want to participate in this conversation.

That was another way of saying, "Cite your quotes"

Quote from: iago on December 09, 2003, 12:32 PM
Grok - I don't know how your crazy country works, but up here car insurance is controlled by the government and we have to pay for it if we want to drive.

Look up exactly what insurance is required?

Over here, insurance is required to drive. The insurance that is required only covers damages to other people's things though. You're not required to insure your own car, only to have insurance covering any damage you may cause to other people's property or injuries you may cause to other people.

Quote from: iago on December 09, 2003, 06:30 AM
Now that I got to thinking, I don't think my argument is slippery slope at all.  You said that it shouldn't be illegal because it doesn't harm anybody else, didn't you?  The same could be said for any drug, so it isn't a slippery slope, it directly follows (as opposed to eventually follows)

Yes, absolutely. You don't need to insure your own car, that's yours to trash as you like, but you must be able to pay damages to others. You're free to kill yourself by smoking, but you can't smoke where you might hurt others. You're free to kill yourself by drinking, but you can't drink and drive where you might hurt others.

I think the same could well apply to all drugs - if you want to kill yourself doing it, that's OK. There needs to be regulations preventing you from hurting others (like, against driving on drugs) though. Depending on how it turns out, it might be advantageous to make public insurance not cover drug-related afflictions. Also, just like with alcohol, too young people/children shouldn't be allowed.