Valhalla Legends Archive

Quote from: Arta[vL] on November 01, 2003, 05:47 PM
I can't see any any way you could do that without Blizzard sueing you at some point. You'd be making money by selling a product for which all the technology was reverse-engineered (IE, stolen) from Blizzard. It violates their EULA and although that's not illegal, it would certainly violate some of the retarded copyright laws you guys have.

I would think that something which goes contrary to a set of laws would be illlegal.

Anyways, you don't have to actually run Blizzard's installer program to extract the game binaries.  The installer packed data file format (MPQ) is fairly well documented and there are a number of third-party programs that could be used to extract the game binaries without running the installer, which is responsible for displaying the click-through license agreement.

Quote from: Dyndrilliac on November 01, 2003, 10:24 AM
I personally would like to see an idiot kill feature on Battle.net, which would induce an instant apocalyptic firestorm on stupid people (I.e, users typing in all caps, calling other people "noobs", spamming to join clans, etc.)

STFU NOOB

What about Trillian?  It uses closed protocols and they charge for it, no one has sued them yet.

I think cuphead has the right to charge becuase programming is not easy for anyone and if hes going to be bothered to make it by alot of people he should atleast charge a one time fee for it and i am thank that he made cleanslatebot2 becuase it helped me make my first bot i do programming as a hobby with out CSB i would never have been able to do connection scripts no packet loggers work for me so thank you cuphead and i belive you can charge money for your hard work

although im sure alot of work is put into CSB and servers i dont think anyone should charge anyone for using CSB

ps. Dyndrilliac u can squelch users if they annoy you, im sure blizzard doesnt like the idea of noobs spamming and it was only yesterday, Kenny-Z was asking some user to stop writing in caps, but i dont think blizzard are gonna implement ur idea nor take any note of it

Quote from: -MichaeL- on November 01, 2003, 07:55 PMbecuase programming is not easy for anyone

Completely wrong.  There are many people for whom programming is both easy and intuitive.  If you're not one of them, you're perhaps in the wrong line of pursuit.

Quote from: Crim-Training on November 01, 2003, 08:03 PM
ps. Dyndrilliac u can squelch users if they annoy you, im sure blizzard doesnt like the idea of noobs spamming and it was only yesterday, Kenny-Z was asking some user to stop writing in caps, but i dont think blizzard are gonna implement ur idea nor take any note of it

Well, it was a mix of kidding and sarcasm, but that's beside the point. On the issue of charging, it would not go against their EULA if the product your selling is stand alone(I.E, not requiring a Blizzard Product installed to run) because the user is simply using a 3rd party client to logon to a  free public server, not a product that is licensed or endorsed by Blizzard Entertainment(Thus making all agreements void, because the EULA only pertains to the game client).

Edit: You can tell my suggestion was a joke because to begin with it's impossible, but oh well.

Quote from: CupHead on October 29, 2003, 05:19 PM
I'd complete it is to get rid of the people who bother me about making a new one.  I figure if it's worth their time to bug me, it's worth some money for me to waste hours on something I don't want to do.

how about charging the ppl who annoy you and and ask for your help ?
CSB is great, but if you will be charging ppl for it id rather learn winsocks
its only a game, i dont remember the box saying:
"**Warning** this game may cost you extra in the future ie. buying names, making 3rd party bots, buying d2 items"
Its amazing how many ppl spend so much extra money after buying a game, d2 items, illegal accounts and some programs

my 2cents anyway

and Dyndrilliac, how can i tell its a joke when you, or someone rem ur post ?
EDIT: grammar

Quote from: Crim-Training on November 02, 2003, 03:01 AM
and Dyndrilliac, how can i tell its a joke when you, or someone rem ur post ?
EDIT: grammar

I'm sorry but...I don't understand at all what your saying. Does "rem" mean remove? because last I checked it wasn't deleted...

Edit: Yup, I was right. Here. My post is the 2nd to last at the bottom.

Quote from: CupHead on November 01, 2003, 07:24 PM
What about Trillian?  It uses closed protocols and they charge for it, no one has sued them yet.

The rare, valid point

Yeah, read my reply earlier; I tried to stress that a regular edition should be released without the "goodies"-- Trillian Pro is Trillian with goodies.  Trillian is free, but Trillian Pro is not.  The connection processes are "the same" in both, but Trillian Pro has goodies.  So as long as they share that aspect, and users have a choice of what they want to use, I can't find a reason to think that a Pro edition would be wrong to make.

Trillian pro isn't *THAT* different from Trillian.

CSB should have a plugin engine so users can dynamically run/stop their own C++ plugins!

On the subject of Trillian, in some cases Trillian Pro is worse than Trillian Basic, because there was an error some time ago (Not sure if it still exists) that crashed the program in some instances when using IRC.

I can't see why you'd want to use Trillian for IRC anyway...it's an instant messaging client. IRC has a bunch of other features that other programs support better.

Quote from: Zakath on November 04, 2003, 08:20 AM
I can't see why you'd want to use Trillian for IRC anyway...it's an instant messaging client. IRC has a bunch of other features that other programs support better.

I don't see why you'd want to use Trillian, unless you like giving random users the ability to run code on your system (perhaps they fixed this finally, but I'm doubtful).