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Quote from: Adron on April 08, 2004, 12:45 PM

Quote from: iago on April 08, 2004, 11:27 AM
Or maybe it's time to start bringing my usb NIC with me

It's the first pin on the right:

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The pins in use are 1, 2, 3 and 6 if i remember correctly. It seems that you've managed to bend pin 1. Hmm. I don't remember now, how badly bent was it? Might it have been making contact before and not now?

It's not really bent so much as it's loose.  I can move it about 2mm in either direction.  

It's been working with a straight cable but not with crossover for some time, so I just assumed that pin 1 (I assume you count from the right?) was only used by crossovers.

Quote from: iago on April 08, 2004, 12:54 PM
It's not really bent so much as it's loose.  I can move it about 2mm in either direction.  

It's been working with a straight cable but not with crossover for some time, so I just assumed that pin 1 (I assume you count from the right?) was only used by crossovers.

The same pins are used by both straight and crossover cables.

Straight : 1 - 1, 2 - 2, 3 - 3, 6 - 6
Cross-over : 1 - 3, 2 - 6, 3 - 1, 6 - 2

Whether you count from the right or from the left depends on how you hold the plug....

Google points to some illustrative images, such as this one.

hmm, it's odd that it worked fine with straight and not with crossover, then.  Perhaps there's some property (how #1 is used?) that is breaking it..

Quote from: iago on April 08, 2004, 01:42 PM
hmm, it's odd that it worked fine with straight and not with crossover, then.  Perhaps there's some property (how #1 is used?) that is breaking it..

No, they're used the same way. It's more likely that one of your cables has a slightly different connector, perhaps it's 0.5 mm longer or something like that.

Quote from: Adron on April 08, 2004, 01:50 PM

Quote from: iago on April 08, 2004, 01:42 PM
hmm, it's odd that it worked fine with straight and not with crossover, then.  Perhaps there's some property (how #1 is used?) that is breaking it..

No, they're used the same way. It's more likely that one of your cables has a slightly different connector, perhaps it's 0.5 mm longer or something like that.

hmm, I've tried with 2 different straight (which work) and 2 different cross (which don't work).  Weird coincidence?

Quote from: iago on April 08, 2004, 02:54 PM
hmm, I've tried with 2 different straight (which work) and 2 different cross (which don't work).  Weird coincidence?

Hmm, sounds like it... What about trying a cross-over cable to the hub's uplink port?

Have you tried using the laptop at home ?

Quote from: mynameistmp on April 11, 2004, 02:36 AM
Have you tried using the laptop at home ?

aah, THAT'S what you were talking about on irc.  Sorry, i was in a game, didn't get your messages till you were offline.

Anyway, the NIC has never worked at home (well, not in a long time, since the pin got broken), but has always worked at work.  I've always assumed it was because of the difference in cables.  At home I use a USB NIC (Xar says it sucks, but whatever).  

Use a cable tester.

Quote from: MrRaza on April 13, 2004, 02:55 AM
Use a cable tester.

I doubt it's a problem with the cable.


Anyway, I came to work today and plugged it in to test, and now it works.  The link light is on and I can dhcp/ping/whatever in or out of the network.  So I don't know what happened on Friday, but I'm going to to not to jinx it